In this episode of Emotional Business, Olga Skipper sits down with Aape Pohjavirta—serial entrepreneur, systems thinker, startup mentor, and founder of impactful ventures like Funzi—to explore what it really means to lead, live, and build with heart in a world addicted to hustle.

Aape doesn’t play by the usual rules. From starting his first company at 19 to losing it all—and doing it again—his journey is anything but linear. He shares how he’s spent a lifetime “digging holes and climbing out,” and why that struggle shaped his 4S life philosophy: Simple, Slow, Stubborn, and Stupid.

This conversation dives into:

• The difference between vision and delusion—and why it takes humility to know the line
• How failure, not fear, helps define your real limits
• What most startup founders miss when they chase scale instead of meaning
• Why trust (not tech) is the backbone of transformation
• How unlearning, therapy, and asking for help became his late-stage superpowers
• What it means to lead from clarity, not ego, in a rapidly shifting world

Whether you’re building a company, navigating personal reinvention, or rethinking how you define success—this episode is a powerful invitation to live truthfully, lead vulnerably, and trust deeply.

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