
Creativity, Courage, and Four Years Sober: A Conversation with Jamie Magnant Ep 24
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About this listen
In this heartfelt and inspiring episode of the Clean Play Podcast, Anne and Chris sit down with returning guest—and now official “star player”—Jamie Magnet. Jamie is a writer, creator, entrepreneur, and sober queer human who has just celebrated a huge milestone: four years free from alcohol and cocaine, and nearly two years cannabis-free.
Jamie opens up about her path to sobriety, the role of harm reduction in her recovery, and how creativity has been both a healing practice and a lifeline. From poetry and painting to Zumba classes and joyful freestyle dancing, Jamie shares how connecting with her inner child has helped her navigate grief, change, and the spectrum of big emotions without returning to substances.
You’ll hear us dive into:
The power of harm reduction and why “all or nothing” isn’t the only way to recover
How creativity—whether through art, movement, or unexpected outlets—can ground and sustain sobriety
The connection between sports, emotion, and personal growth
Why anger, when harnessed, can be a tool rather than a threat
Finding joy in the moment instead of chasing a distant “finish line”
What four years sober has really taught Jamie about showing up for herself
If you’ve ever wondered how to keep going when the road feels long, or how to find joy and expression in the sober journey, Jamie’s story will leave you inspired and encouraged.
Resources & Links:
Follow Jamie’s writing and art on Substack
Learn more about The Mocktail School’s NA mixology workshops at The Sans Bar
Connect with Anne at Clean Play Coaching at www.cleanplaycoaching.com