Episode 8: Can Public Make You a Better Investor?

This week, Jordan Metzner and Sam Nadler go deep on Public.com, the modern investing platform opening its trading infrastructure to developers. They demo a new tool built live on Public’s API, explore the real potential of programmable investing, and sit down with Emily Kurtz (Head of Product at Public) and Jake Trefethen (Director of AI) to unpack what’s coming next. Plus, in the news: Shopify now wants PMs who code, GPT-5 Pro hints at research-grade intelligence, and OpenAI’s model picker is back, and messier than ever.

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Show Notes:
(0:00) Intro + guests from Public
(1:30) What is Public.com and how does the API work?
(3:30) Demo: Jordan’s trading bot built on Public’s API
(13:00) Comparing LLMs for financial reasoning
(17:30) Public’s broader vision + AI research features
(20:30) Generated assets and AI-assisted portfolio tools
(22:55) GPT-5 Pro release: early impressions
(24:30) The return of model picker + emotional attachment to AI UX
(26:30) Shopify now requires PMs to vibe-code
(29:00) What “vibe-coding” means and where it fits in product hiring
(31:00) Wrap-up and thanks to the Public.com team

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Platforms / Tools Mentioned:
• Public – https://www.public.com
• Ryz Labs – https://www.ryzlabs.com
• ChatGPT – https://chat.openai.com
• Shopify – https://www.shopify.com

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Episode 7: How Daily Check-Ins Fix Remote Work

Jordan Metzner and Sam Nadler share a simple but powerful internal tool: a Slack-integrated daily check-in system that’s helped their remote team stay accountable, async, and aligned. It’s lightweight, fast, and has changed how their team shares progress. Then they revisit Clay, a thoughtfully designed relationship management tool that helps founders and operators stay in touch without the CRM bloat. In the news, they break down the latest on GPT-5 Pro, OpenAI’s rumored “research-grade” AI, and what the new product tiers might mean for the future of AI.

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Show Notes:
(0:00) Intro

(1:21) Why we built a daily check-in tool for remote teams

(3:22) How the system works + Slack + AI summaries

(6:44) What it’s built with and what it unlocked for us

(9:15) What teammates actually do + future features

(10:30) Real example: AI blocker spotted and solved

(11:17) Tool of the Week: Clay for personalized outreach

(16:04) AI News: OpenAI’s new open-source models + Groq demo

(21:14) GPT-5 leaks and what’s coming next

(22:34) Final thoughts + wrap-up

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Platforms / Tools Mentioned:
• Ryz Labs – https://www.ryzlabs.com
• Clay – https://www.clay.com

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Episode 6: From Avatar to AI Hire: Building NTRVSTA

Jordan Metzner and Sam Nadler dive into NTRVSTA, a new AI-powered interview automation platform Jordan built to help teams move faster and smarter in the hiring process. The tool uses avatars to conduct adaptive, friendly interviews 24/7 across technical and non-technical roles. They break down how it works, why it saves time, and what they’ve learned from early users. Plus, in the news: Microsoft hits a $4 trillion valuation, Figma’s IPO surges over 250%.

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Show Notes:

(0:00) Intro

(1:17) Why we built NTRVSTA — solving interview inefficiency

(2:51) How AI avatars help scale top-of-funnel interviews

(9:22) Product demo: scoring, transcripts, highlights, and whiteboard

(16:36) How it was built: avatars, scoring, and translation tech

(20:05) News: Microsoft hits $4 trillion valuation

(22:03) News: Figma IPO surges over 250%

(24:34) Wrap-up and final thoughts

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Platforms / Tools Mentioned:
• Ryz Labs – https://www.ryzlabs.com
• NTRVSTA – https://www.ntrvsta.com/
• Microsoft – https://www.microsoft.com
• Figma – https://www.figma.com

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