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Blue Sky

Blue Sky

By: Bill Burke
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 Hosted by Bill Burke, founder of The Optimism Institute, this weekly podcast will feature inspiring leaders, authors, researchers, and big thinkers who are taking on some of our world’s toughest challenges with an infectious sense of optimism. Blue Sky takes its name from the meditation reminder that there’s always blue sky above, sometimes you just have to get your head above the clouds to see it.2025 Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Social Sciences
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  • Erin Cain on Personal Resilience and the Power of Horses to Heal

    Erin Cain on Personal Resilience and the Power of Horses to Heal
    Oct 15 2025
    Erin Cain didn’t grow up around horses but eventually was exposed to them and the remarkable abilities they have to facilitate healing for a wide range of individuals. A series of life events caused her to move from her native northeast to the Colorado Rockies and today, she’s the co-founder, owner, and operator of Grace Reins Equine Therapy. In this episode she describes the personal hardships she’s overcome and the work she now does rescuing and “gentling” wild mustangs, then working with these animals to provide therapy to the diverse group of individuals who come to Grace Reins for healing. Chapters: 00:00 Erins’s East Coast Roots Host Bill Burke introduces Erin Cain, founder of Grace Reins, a therapeutic horse organization. Erin shares her early life growing up on Long Island in a blue-collar family, far from horses, and how she eventually moved to California. 03:12 Discovering Equine Therapy Erin recounts her first exposure to equine therapy in Connecticut at High Hopes, a major program. 07:22 Grace Reins: Founding & Mission Erin discusses her journey from volunteering at High Hopes to getting certified in therapeutic horsemanship. She details her move to Colorado in 2013 and the eventual establishment of Grace Reins, emphasizing the inspiration she drew from Special Olympics events. 11:12 Rescuing Wild Mustangs Erin introduces her partner Joe and explains how their shared passion for wild mustangs led to their collaboration. She highlights Grace Reins’ unique approach of rescuing and gentling wild mustangs, integrating them into their therapy programs. 15:04 The Art of Gentling Wild Horses Erin explains the process of gentling wild mustangs, referencing Monty Roberts’ methods of compassionate training. She illustrates how this process teaches respect and patience, which are crucial lessons also applicable to human interaction. 19:05 Mustangs and Human Healing Erin explores the profound connection between rescued mustangs and clients, especially veterans, who find a mirror in these traumatized yet resilient animals. This shared experience of overcoming adversity fosters hope and a sense of worth for both the horses and the individuals. 22:08 Therapy with Veterans & Children Erin details the therapeutic process at Grace Reins, focusing on groundwork, grooming, and non-verbal communication to help clients, including female wounded warriors and children, downregulate and connect with horses. She describes how the horses’ slower heartbeats and meditative presence aid in relaxation and emotional regulation. 27:13 Nature’s Impact: Beyond the Screen Erin discusses the benefits of children spending time outdoors with horses, moving away from screens and engaging their senses. She highlights how this environment helps children develop emotional regulation and a sense of calm, echoing the concept of nature deficit disorder. 31:05 Personal Resilience & Drive Erin shares a deeply personal story about the loss of her brother, a New York City firefighter, on 9/11, and how this tragedy fuels her dedication to helping others. She connects her experiences with her father’s firefighting career and her brother’s memory to her empathetic approach in therapeutic work, especially with veterans. 38:01 Finding Equine Therapy Near You Erin discusses the widespread availability of equine therapy and directs listeners to PATH, the Professional Association of Therapeutic Horsemanship, for finding local programs. She also offers to personally assist those seeking therapeutic horsemanship options, emphasizing the global reach of this impactful work.
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    43 mins
  • Psychotherapist Meghan Riordan Jarvis on the Importance of Understanding Grief as a Path Toward Living Healthier Lives

    Psychotherapist Meghan Riordan Jarvis on the Importance of Understanding Grief as a Path Toward Living Healthier Lives
    Oct 8 2025
    Meghan Riordan Jarvis was a practicing psychotherapist when she found herself devastated by the loss of her two parents. She suddenly saw she was no different from those she helped, but she still needed outside support to recover. In this Blue Sky episode, she describes how this realization led her to become an expert about grief and an advocate for all of us to learn about this important and challenging part of life. Chapters: 02:20 Journey to Psychotherapy Meghan shares her personal journey into psychotherapy, beginning with a ‘normal breakup’ that led her to seek therapy. This experience uncovered an unacknowledged childhood trauma, sparking her interest in understanding human behavior and emotions. 06:30 From Teacher to Campaign Manager Meghan recounts her early career, which included earning a master’s degree in early childhood education and a brief stint as a campaign manager in D.C. This period of professional uncertainty, coupled with a dissolved relationship, propelled her further into therapy and solidified her path towards psychotherapy. 09:17 Experiencing Grief Firsthand Meghan discusses her personal experience with grief after losing both parents, particularly the sudden death of her mother. Despite her professional expertise, she found herself profoundly destabilized, experiencing traumatic grief that mirrored the struggles of her own patients. 13:04 Clinician’s Fury at Personal Grief Meghan recounts her frustration and ‘fury’ as a psychotherapist experiencing severe personal grief, realizing her education didn’t shield her from its intensity. Her inpatient trauma treatment revealed the profound difference between theoretical knowledge and the embodied experience of loss. 15:55 Bridging Mental and Physical Health Meghan advocates for dissolving the cultural divide between physical and mental health, highlighting how societal biases hinder seeking help for grief. She draws parallels between adolescent growth and the transformative, often messy, process of grieving, emphasizing its physical and mental impacts. 21:38 Grief as a Transformative Process Meghan explains how grief, though painful, can be a transformative process leading to ‘traumatic growth’ and new purpose. She details her Grief Mentor Method, a personalized approach to developing daily practices and tools like the ‘grief EpiPen’ to manage intense emotional and physical responses to loss. 26:50 Normalizing and Processing Grief Meghan emphasizes the importance of normalizing grief and understanding it extends far beyond crying. She introduces the ‘grief mentor method,’ which focuses on physical system connection, distinguishing between nervous systems, nourishing practices, storytelling, and connecting with external support, including ‘finding your five’ to test sharing your story. 31:56 Grief in Education and the Workplace Meghan highlights the physical impact of grief on the body’s 12 systems, citing statistics on increased heart attack risk for widowers. She passionately advocates for integrating grief education into schools and professional training, noting the lack of comprehensive grief studies in psychotherapy programs and the need for better workplace support. 39:24 Supporting Grievers: Practical Tips Meghan offers practical advice for supporting someone in grief, emphasizing collective effort and long-term planning, ideally for a year or more. 46:30 Megan’s Resources and Farewell Bill Burke reviews Meghan’s diverse offerings, including her memoirs, ‘Can Anyone Tell Me Essential Questions about Grief and Loss?’, her podcast ‘Grief is My Side Hustle,’ and her corporate and online courses. Meghan details how individuals, helpers, and leaders can access her work via her website and Instagram.
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    51 mins
  • Tricia Rose Burt Describes How She Transformed Her Life and Why She Encourages Others to Believe That There Is “No Time to Be Timid”

    Tricia Rose Burt Describes How She Transformed Her Life and Why She Encourages Others to Believe That There Is “No Time to Be Timid”
    Oct 1 2025
    Tricia Rose Burt had done everything right, according to the way she was raised. She went to a “good school,” had a “good job” and all seemed to be going great on the surface. But inside, she was miserable and decided to make a change. She left her career in public relations, took classes at art school, and began to explore her own creativity in a way that, as she describes it, “filled her cup.” She’s never been happier, and in this Blue Sky conversation, she’ll explain how listeners might want choose to tap into their “inner artist” as well. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Tricia Rose Burt This chapter introduces Tricia Rose Burt, highlighting her journey from a conventional upbringing to a fulfilling creative career. It sets the stage for her story of transformation and how she helps others find their own path. 02:22 Overcoming Prescribed Paths Tricia discusses her upbringing in Tampa, Florida, where there was a ‘right way’ to do things, leading her to feel miserable despite doing everything ‘correctly.’ 05:04 The Art School Transformation Tricia shares how she transitioned from a career in public relations, which she disliked, to art school. A career counselor’s advice and an initial art class led to a complete career and life change, reigniting a childhood spark for creativity. 08:05 Focusing on Process, Not Outcomes Tricia explains her current philosophy of focusing on the creative process rather than the outcome, a challenge for someone raised in an ‘overachieving household.’ 12:36 No Time to Be Timid: Podcast Tricia discusses her podcast, ‘No Time to Be Timid,’ and its message about embracing courage at any age. She emphasizes the pain of an uncreative life and encourages listeners to overcome obstacles to pursue their passions. 16:47 Integrating Creativity and Life Tricia advises listeners to integrate creativity into their daily lives rather than making drastic changes, sharing her own ‘dramatic’ pivot to Ireland. She highlights the importance of a low overhead and finding joy in the creative process, contrasting it with exhausting unfulfilling work. 23:01 The Riskiest Thing: Playing It Safe Tricia introduces her ‘No Time to Be Timid’ manifesto, starting with ‘The riskiest thing you can do is play it safe.’ 25:54 Non-Linear Paths and Creativity’s Value Tricia discusses the non-linear nature of life paths and how it allows for following curiosity, a contrast to her father’s single career. She stresses that creativity is not frivolous, but essential for problem-solving and leading a fulfilling life, challenging the societal undervaluation of creative pursuits. 28:45 Constraints as Opportunities Tricia elaborates on ‘constraints are opportunities,’ sharing how financial limitations in Ireland led her to create art from unconventional materials like tea bags. She provides examples of how constraints, whether financial or time-based, can spark creativity and innovation. 35:03 Embracing Failure for Growth Tricia discusses ‘failure is your friend,’ explaining that setbacks offer valuable learning experiences and redirect paths. She shares a friend’s perspective that ‘no’ can be as good as ‘yes’ and emphasizes asking ‘what happens if I do this?’ in the creative process. 38:45 Courage in Community Tricia highlights the importance of ‘courage in community,’ noting that fellow pilgrims provide support and understanding for creative individuals. 41:50 Make Art Now: The Power of Story Tricia passionately advocates for ‘make art now,’ asserting that art and stories are vital for human connection, empathy, and overcoming demonization. She emphasizes that creativity isn’t limited to ‘big A’ art but encompasses everyday acts of making and connecting.
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    47 mins
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