Episodes

  • Black, White + Colour
    Oct 22 2026

    In this latest episode of Biographers in Conversation, Tim Dobbyn chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Black, White + Colour: A Biography of Mervyn Bishop Australia's First Indigenous Professional Photographer

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • Mervyn Bishop joined the Sydney Morning Herald at 17, becoming Australia’s first Indigenous press photographer and, soon after, the first Indigenous journalist on a metropolitan daily newspaper.
    • Tim Dobbyn’s family has known Mervyn since 1962; their friendship deepened over decades before evolving into a nine-year biography project, completed largely during pandemic lockdowns.
    • Dobbyn discusses the unusual position of writing about a living, close friend, using journalistic standards, corroborating witnesses and news archives to keep the account truthful rather than reverential.
    • Mervyn’s mother, Marjorie, was a talented amateur photographer whose influence sparked his early interest, reflecting a broader, lesser-known tradition of photography within First Nations families as a way of preserving connection.
    • The death of Mervyn’s wife Elizabeth on the day of his first solo exhibition profoundly altered Mervyn’s life and parenting, with Dobbyn noting she had been his crucial organising force.
    • Mervyn developed a distinctive ethical practice around photographing people in dire circumstances, using humour, empathy and consent to disarm subjects rather than exploit them.
    • Dobbyn faced years of publishing rejection as a first-time author before Ginninderra Press took on the richly illustrated book, timed serendipitously with a State Library exhibition of Mervyn’s photographs.
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    34 mins
  • A Vast Horizon: Artists and Lovers, Freedom and War
    Oct 29 2026

    In this latest episode of Biographers in Conversation, Anna Thomasson chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about A Vast Horizon: Artists and Lovers, Freedom and War.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • Why Anna Thomasson chose a collective biography to reveal the chemistry and interconnected lives of nine surrealists.
    • How a 1937 summer at the Hôtel Vaste Horizon became the book’s narrative and symbolic starting point.
    • What photographs reveal about historical lives and why their apparent intimacy can never yield the whole truth.
    • How letters, diaries, poems and artworks became ‘wormholes’ into her subjects’ experiences.
    • Why Anna Thomasson preserves archival silences and honours Ady Fidelin’s right to opacity rather than speculating.
    • How short chapters, juxtaposition and a collage of fragments sustain momentum across nine intersecting lives.
    • Why contradictions, omissions and self-mythologising belong inside biography instead of being smoothed into certainty.
    • Thomasson’s advice to biographers: set research boundaries, trust your instincts and accept that every life remains provisional.
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    35 mins
  • "Groomed"
    Nov 2 2026

    In this episode of Biographers in Conversation, Sonia Orchard chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Groomed.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • How Sonia’s daughter approaching the age Sonia was when the abuse occurred, prompted her to reconsider the relationship and pursue justice for herself and the next generation.
    • Why Sonia used the police investigation and court case as the memoir’s narrative spine, beginning with the question: ‘Had a crime been committed?’
    • How writing the unfolding legal process in real time without knowing its outcome created immediacy, uncertainty and suspense.
    • Why Sonia interwove memoir with neuroscience, psychology, cultural history and legal research, using research as both a means of understanding and a source of emotional distance.
    • How Sonia’s teenage diaries and adult perspective reveal competing narratives of love and abuse—and helped her reclaim her story through narrative justice.
    • What Groomed reveals about grooming, gaslighting and coercive control, and the cultural narratives that allow child abuse to be mistaken for romance.
    • Why Sonia’s search for accountability became a wider critique of a legal system that can retraumatise survivors while failing to provide recognition, care and communal healing.
    • How her cancer diagnosis illuminated society’s contrasting responses to physical and emotional trauma, and why she advises trauma writers to seek support, trust their instincts and write only when ready.
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    42 mins
  • Return to Uluru
    Nov 9 2026

    In this episode of Biographers in Conversation, Dr Mark McKenna chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Return to Uluru.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • How Mark McKenna scoured archives, museum storerooms and even household garages to uncover new evidence that challenged the official record.
    • Why Return to Uluru focuses on the 1934 shooting of an Indigenous man at a sacred waterhole near Uluru.
    • How Mark treated Constable McKinnon’s memoir admission as a moral and ethical crux.
    • Why Return to Uluru begins in the Central Australian landscape.
    • How Mark framed the narrative as truth-telling, using the murder to invite reflection on Australia’s broader Indigenous–settler history.
    • Why memory is unstable and partial and how people reshape past events into multiple plausible truths.
    • Mark argues that all history and biography must be continually reinterpreted in the light of new evidence.
    • Why Mark believes a biographer’s role is relentless questioning, never taking records at face value and always probing why, why, why behind every account.
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    37 mins
  • Like a Cat Loves a Bird: The Nine Lives of Muriel Spark
    Oct 8 2026

    In this latest episode of Biographers in Conversation, Dr James Bailey chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Like a Cat Loves a Bird: The Nine Lives of Muriel Spark.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • Why James structures Spark’s life as nine partial portraits rather than a unified chronological narrative.
    • How Muriel Spark’s changing appearance during sittings for Sandy Moffat’s portrait provides the biography’s perfect opening scene.
    • Why James preserves Spark’s contradictions and asks open-ended questions instead of pretending to solve her.
    • How extensive archival research allows James to reconstruct vivid scenes without crossing the border into fiction.
    • The challenge of weaving literary criticism and human story together so that Spark’s life and novels illuminate each other.
    • Why cats, cocktails, hairdresser’s receipts, contaminated pens and green gowns are far from trivial biographical details.
    • How James adopts a witty, nimble style capable of accommodating the darkness, eccentricity and comedy of Spark’s life.
    • Why the biography ends not with Spark’s death but with her imaginative return as a meddling authorial ghost.
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    50 mins
  • Dr Koop: The Many Lives of the Surgeon General
    Oct 1 2026

    In this episode of Biographers in Conversation, Dr Nigel Cameron chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Dr Koop: The Many Lives of the Surgeon General.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • Why Nigel Cameron opened the narrative with a preface portraying the octogenarian Dr C. Everett Koop.
    • Nigel chose the title, The Many Lives of the Surgeon General, to reflect Koop’s multidimensional roles as a paediatric surgeon, public-health crusader, policymaker and complex human being.
    • How Nigel translated complex scientific and medical concepts into engaging, novelistic prose.
    • How Nigel crafted a kaleidoscopic portrait by balancing Koop’s stern public persona with intimate human stories, family anecdotes and personal vulnerabilities.
    • How Nigel drew on his bioethics background to frame Koop’s decisions in terms of moral conviction, public trust and the ethical dimensions of placing science above politics.
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    44 mins
  • Circle of Wonders - Truth-telling in Storytelling
    Sep 24 2026

    In this latest episode of Biographers in Conversation, Dr Kathryn Heyman chats with Dr Gabriella Kelly-Davies about Circle of Wonders.

    Here’s what you’ll discover in this episode:

    • ‘Circle of Wonders’ is a novel about a group of women who gather in the Blue Mountains to support their friend Ronnie Bloom through the final month of her life.
    • ‘Circle of Wonders’ began as a memoir shortly after Kathryn’s sister and mother died in the same month during 2020.
    • Ten weeks later, Kathryn decided to write the book as fictional version of the story. It is then that she found the story’s circular, lunar structure.
    • Kathryn explains why the story needed multiple voices rather than one: capturing an ‘ensemble’ or ‘choral’ experience of community meant she no longer had the ethical right to tell it as memoir.
    • Kathryn reflects on the ethics of writing about real people.
    • Drawing on William Faulkner, Kathryn distinguishes facts from emotional truth, arguing that fiction can sometimes reach a more profoundly truthful place than memoir by freeing the writer from strict fidelity to external events.
    • The book’s structure mirrors the lunar cycle, with the final breath looping back into the first sentence, reflecting Kathryn’s belief that ‘all time is now’ and every ending is also a beginning.
    • Kathryn closes our conversation with advice for writers straddling memoir, biography and fiction: write the story as it arrives first, then decide on its category. She recommends British novelist Jill Dawson as a model for biographical fiction.
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    35 mins