In the latest episode of In Conversation With, Asanti’s Emma Lauchlan hosts two industry leaders for a deep dive into the meaning of resilience - both physical and digital.

Joining the conversation are:

• Ian Stuart, Director of Technical and Compliance at Livingston, with over 16 years’ experience at NatWest Group safeguarding critical data centre environments.
• Brett Rowe, Founder of Securus Communications, a leading UK cyber security consultancy.

Together, they unpack:

• Why resilience is about more than redundant systems - it’s about people, training and testing.
• How “currency of competency” determines whether teams can truly respond under pressure.
• The hidden risks to resilience in supply chains, building management systems and third-party technologies.
• Why prevention, not ransom payments, is the only defence against cyber threats.
• The future of resilience as AI reshapes both attacks and defenses.

This episode offers a mix engineering expertise with cyber security insight, providing a rare 360° view of risk and resilience. For leaders managing critical systems, it’s a must-listen conversation.

In this episode, Asanti’s Emma Lauchlan talks with Brett Rowe, Founder and Director of Securus Communications, one of the UK’s leading cybersecurity consultancies. Brett shares the story of launching Securus 12 years ago to bring service back into the heart of security solutions and why that customer-first approach still sets them apart today.

From the misconception that public cloud providers handle your security, to why cyber risk should be treated as a core business risk, Brett offers sharp insights for leaders navigating today’s constantly evolving threat landscape. He also talks about the role of AI in shaping the future of cyber – both as a tool for defence and as a weapon for attackers – and reflects on the business lessons he’s learned along the way.

If you want to understand why cybersecurity is never “done” and how to stay ahead, this conversation is a must-listen.

Brett Rowe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowebrett/

Emma Lauchlan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmaeboyle/

Download our whitepaper on IT Resilience: https://asanti.com/resource-centre/guides-white-papers/whitepaper-why-some-organisations-are-still-not-getting-their-it-resilience-plans-right/

In the latest episode of “The Founder’s Playbook” podcast, Asanti’s Emma Lauchlan sits down with Ian Stuart, the former Chief Engineer at NatWest Group and now Director of Technical & Compliance at M&E specialists, Livingston.

With over 16 years in one of the UK's most scrutinised financial institutions - 11 of them leading critical engineering efforts - Ian brings deep insight into the complex world of risk management, infrastructure resilience and operational continuity. Now, at Livingston, he’s on a mission to change how contractors support clients in critical environments.

In this thought-provoking episode, Ian shares:

Why "competency today" isn’t good enough for tomorrow’s infrastructure demands

• How regulated environments shaped his approach to de-risking operations
• Why true resilience is more than just redundancy - and often misunderstood
• The critical importance of continuous professional development in high-stakes roles
• Why collaboration and honesty are the foundations of trust in client-contractor relationships.

This episode is packed with insight for leaders who can’t afford to fail. Listen now to hear Ian’s perspective on evolving skills, contractor accountability and why every day should be a school day.