Host Peter Csathy's "synthetic" co-hosts discuss a sobering reality that faces all websites (not just media publishers and entertainment companies). For general purpose search, consumers increasingly turn to conversational AI chatbots like OpenAI’s ChatGPT, Google’s Gemini, and Anthropic’s Claude — as well as to more utilitarian AI search engines like Perplexity — instead of traditional Google and Bing search. This new AI search reality poses a "Code Red" for traditional search. But it also poses a very real “Code Red” (perhaps even existential) threat for most websites in general and the advertisers that support them. That means all news, media and entertainment companies, of course. But it goes much deeper than that — to anyone and any business that is dependent on advertising and ad-driven traffic. This episode discusses it all, including the new data from TollBit that is the basis for these conclusions.

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