
9/11 Conspiracies, Direct Democracy, and the Problem with Watership Down
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On this episode of The Wrong News at 5 PM, Victor Donnetso and Wolf Alexander dive into a chaotic and wide-ranging debate on conspiracy theories, political hypocrisy, and the hidden dangers of direct democracy.
The episode kicks off with a discussion on Stephen Colbert’s transformation from satire icon to establishment figure before spiraling into 9/11 conspiracies. Was it an inside job? Did the Pentagon really get hit by a plane? Wolf takes an aggressive stance, while Victor pushes for a more critical examination of evidence versus speculation.
From there, things get even more heated as they tackle:
- The selective memory of American politics and the whitewashing of George W. Bush
- The Biden administration’s assault on free speech in the name of national security
- Watership Down as an allegory for colonialism, power structures, and gender dynamics
- The fundamental flaw in direct democracy—what stops it from empowering bullies?
- Why civil rights wouldn’t have happened under direct democracy
00:00 – Intro and the “Greater Alexander” debate
01:17 – Stephen Colbert: From rebel comedian to corporate lackey
03:02 – 9/11 conspiracy theories: government negligence or something bigger?
07:17 – The Pentagon, missing plane parts, and media narratives
09:16 – How the media buries real investigations (JFK, 9/11, and more)
12:30 – Biden’s free speech crackdown: criminalizing criticism of Israel
15:25 – Watership Down: A colonial allegory hiding in plain sight?
19:37 – The rabbit patriarchy: How Watership Down treats gender and survival
24:46 – Was Imperial Japan fascist? Why we only apply that label to the West
26:21 – Why BIPOC perspectives on power structures are fundamentally different
27:55 – Direct democracy and the high school bully problem
29:46 – Would direct democracy have passed civil rights?
29:57 – Wolf hangs up. Show ends abruptly.
Quotes:
- “If we can't find an abandoned skyscraper, we should build one and fly an old airplane into it and see what actually happens.” – Wolf
- “Even the way they talk about it in Watership Down—‘we need women’—like they're ordering off a menu.” – Victor
- “Direct democracy wouldn’t have given us civil rights.” – Victor
- “If you can pass the citizenship test, you can play with direct democracy.” – Wolf
- “What stops direct democracy from just putting the popular kids in charge?” – Victor
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Tags: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Pentagon cover-up, direct democracy debate, Stephen Colbert satire, Watership Down colonialism, political speech suppression, civil rights and democracy, Biden administration policies, government overreach, free speech debate