In this episode of The John Kitchens Coach Podcast, John sits down with real estate strategist and keynote speaker Michael Collier for a high-level, real-talk conversation about what it actually takes to grow as a business owner without burning out.

They dive deep into the misunderstood power of leverage—not just in business, but across all areas of life. Michael shares how agents are stuck trying to do everything, how that mindset creates burnout, and why clarity, systems, and the right support team are the keys to getting to the next level.

Whether you're a solo agent, team leader, or small business owner, this episode will challenge how you view your time, your energy, and your leadership.

• Why most agents are stuck in reaction mode and burning out

• The difference between creating a business vs. creating a job for yourself

• How to get from A to B without knowing what Z looks like yet

• How to use leverage to become a better leader

• What tasks you should immediately stop doing—and who should take them over

• The power of hiring (even when cash flow feels tight)

• Why hiring a team forces you to become more organized, more focused, and more consistent

• How leverage leads to higher standards and stronger leadership

• The connection between leverage, accountability, and momentum

• The unique ability exercise: focus on what gives you energy and prints money

• How Michael built a content team of virtual assistants to drive brand and inbound deals

• Why creating content doesn’t mean you have to do all the editing, posting, or managing

• How leverage outside of business (like housekeepers, grocery services, laundry) gives you freedom inside it

• A powerful reminder that solving your life bottlenecks helps unlock business performance

• The mindset shifts from “how do I do this” to “who can help me solve this?”

• Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell

• Who Not How by Dan Sullivan

• The Disney Way (book reference)

• The Leverage Lounge Podcast – coming soon from Michael Collier

• Strategic frameworks: SWOT Analysis, Unique Ability, Hourly Rate Exercise

• Discover Central Florida (Michael’s YouTube Channel)

“If it’s gonna be, it’s up to me” is the mindset that burns you out. The better question? Who can help me win.” – Michael Collier

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