Rod and Karen are joined by director, writer, actor, stand-up comedian, podcast host, and author with a new book coming out called “SUCCESSFUL FAILURE: Lessons Learned Flat on My Face”, KevOnStage to discuss his new book, taking an L, Drake, being a WNBA fan, fame, navigating an increasingly strange social media landscape, making a TV show, working with talented people, a woman dressed in a hotdog costume, a fake dentists and sword ratchetness.

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