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What does it mean to love someone deeply in a world where suffering is inevitable? Jerry and Abigail return for another honest and intimate reflection on a recent health crisis that brought the pair face-to-face with mortality, vulnerability, and the aching intensity of love throughout it all.

After Abigail suffers a near-fatal injury and a cascade of medical complications, Jerry and Abigail recount the physical ordeal and emotional aftermath. The couple invites listeners into the raw and tender space of survival, caregiving, and spiritual insight while wrestling with questions like: Why does suffering exist? How do we stay open when life threatens to shut us down? And where is God when we feel most broken?

Abigail shares how her sense of self narrowed in response to pain, leaving her with the most minimal form of consciousness she had ever known. Jerry reflects on the surprising joy of enacting love through caregiving. Together, they explore the spiritual transformation that can arise from shared adversity and how moments of crisis can reopen the "skylight" to grace, love, and the transcendent.

From Shakespeare to William James, trapeze metaphors to real-life hospital corridors, this conversation weaves together philosophy, storytelling, and spiritual wisdom as the two (deeply in love) philosophers provide this reflection on suffering as a guide to loving through it, learning from it, and finding God at its heart.

Are you walking through hardship or supporting someone who is? Tune in to hope, grounding, and an invitation to stay spiritually open, even when it hurts.

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The Life Wisdom Project – Spiritual insights on living a wiser, more meaningful life.

From God to Jerry to You – Divine messages and breakthroughs for seekers.

Two Philosophers Wrestle With God – A dialogue on God, truth, and reason.

Jerry & Abigail: An Intimate Dialogue – Love, faith, and divine presence in partnership.

What’s Your Spiritual Story – Real stories of people changed by encounters with God.

What’s On Our Mind – Reflections from Jerry and Scott on recent episodes.

What’s On Your Mind – Listener questions, divine answers, and open dialogue.

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