In this episode, we welcome Rob Bier, a leadership coach, founder, investor, and author of Smooth Scaling: 20 Rituals to Build a Friction-Free Organization. Rob has coached over 40 scale-ups, including several unicorns and a decacorn, and brings deep insight into what makes organizations scale effectively. We dive into rituals, team dynamics, and frameworks like the Productivity & Positivity 2x2. Rob also discusses the limits of OKRs, the myth of training, and why great dialogue is more valuable than great systems. A must-listen for founders and leaders serious about smooth scaling.

Hosts:

Michael Smith Jr: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/smittysgp/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Razko Kotler: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/razko282/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Guest:

Rob Bier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbier/

Links Mentioned:

• Rob Bier Official Site / Smooth Scaling Book: https://smoothscalingbook.com
• Trellis Partners: https://www.trellis.partners
• MoneySmart: https://www.moneysmart.sg
• OnLoop: https://www.onloop.com
• Waggle (AI for Better Meetings): https://www.waggle.team

• Athletic Brewing Co. (non-alcoholic beer): https://athleticbrewing.com
• Lightspeed Southeast Asia Report: https://www.lsvp.com/research/southeast-asia-startup-ecosystem

Books & Media Mentioned:

• Smooth Scaling: 20 Rituals to Build a Friction-Free Organization by Rob Bier
  https://www.amazon.com/Smooth-Scaling-Rituals-Friction-Free-Organization/dp/1739158807
• Occupied (TV Series, Norway): https://www.netflix.com/sg/title/80092654
• Go Ahead Brother (TV Series, Poland): https://www.netflix.com/sg/title/81613239