
#081: Growth Without Burnout. Anti-Goals, Culture, and Level-5 Leadership with Paul Atherton
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In this new episode of the Grappling Growth podcast, Joe Testouri sits down with Paul Atherton, CEO & Co-Founder of Highspire, to unpack what it really takes to build sustainable success.
Paul shares his insights on Growth Without Burnout—why chasing every opportunity isn’t the answer, and how setting anti-goals can be just as powerful as chasing goals. We dive into how he’s intentionally shaped culture at Highspire, what it means to lead with humility and purpose through the lens of Level-5 Leadership, and how leaders can scale without sacrificing well-being.
If you’ve ever struggled with balancing ambition and sustainability, this conversation will give you practical frameworks, fresh perspective, and permission to redefine what growth really looks like.
EP Guest: Paul Atherton
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-atherton-p-eng-91a335138/
Website: https://www.highspire.com/