What if your work in the world wasn’t your purpose - but your practice?

In this episode of Getting Under the Skin, Topaz sits down with co-founder of Transcend Education, author, and creative strategist Dr. Jeff Wetzler (he/him), whose life’s work has been about bringing people together - from mountaintop gatherings to deep conversations on meaning, identity, and impact.

Jeff shares:

• Why “holding space” isn’t a tactic, it’s a way of being

• How chasing significance can distract us from actually living

• The tension between being a public leader and a private seeker

• What real service looks like in an ego-driven world

• How relationships - not accolades - are the true measure of a life

This is a conversation about practice over perfection, presence over performance.

About letting go of the script, and listening for the deeper invitation underneath it all.

These conversations are not performative interviews, book release tours or productivity hacks.

Genuine curiosity is the compass for these honest, human-to-human exchanges of stories. We explore how people are formed by the lives they’ve lived and celebrate the wisdom gained along the way.

Welcome to Getting Under The Skin

🔗 Learn more about our guest

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-wetzler-9ba3824/

https://transcendeducation.org/

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