John Snyder (CEO, Net Friends) joins Josh to unpack how MSPs escape “do-everything” chaos by choosing a clear primary business model and fixing account management. You’ll hear owner-level lessons on partnership, procurement pitfalls, automation wins, and why marketing isn’t a “nice to have”—it’s the front door to recruiting and revenue.

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John Snyder of Net Friends shares his path from field tech to majority owner and the mindset shift from “say yes to everything” to a focused MSP. He explains how Primary Business Model (PBM) clarity changed profitability, why VAR-heavy procurement distracted the team, and how “Account Management 2.0” is being rebuilt around trackable, team-based communication instead of single points of failure. The conversation also dives into practical automation starting points and the underrated compounding effect of consistent marketing investment.

👉 PBM clarity: stop being “everything to everybody,” pick MSP as the core, and align ops, sales, and projects 👉 VAR trap: big hardware deals look great, but meetings, deal reg, and micro-decisions crush focus 👉 Account Management 2.0 → 3.0: replace lone CSMs with a shared inbox + ticketed comms for visibility and handoffs 👉 Automation that lands: start at the customer portal with HR forms (on/offboarding, role changes, leave) to prove value fast 👉 Marketing as a force multiplier: talent, recruiting, and referrals all begin with what prospects see online (benchmark ~8% of revenue)

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🔗 Resources & Links • John Snyder at Net Friends: https://www.netfriends.com • Bering McKinley MSP Consulting: https://beringmckinley.com

⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Coffee-chat intro & origin story 03:00 – From field tech to CEO: gifted equity to 49% → 90% ownership 12:30 – Partners, morale, and the “AI makes you feel seen” aside 16:15 – Primary Business Model confusion and choosing MSP as the core 18:05 – VAR/procurement highs, hidden costs, and why focus wins 21:25 – Breaking fix habits, culling the long tail of $59/hour clients 32:24 – Automation starting point: customer portal + HR workflows 37:53 – Outlook: integrations, data flow, and making tools better 41:57 – Account Management 2.0 problems & the shared-inbox fix 48:39 – Sales vs. Success vs. Ops: one role at a time 56:48 – Lifecycle Insights, TBR pushback, and relationship signals 1:01:39 – Marketing lessons: invest ~8% of revenue & hire the team 1:03:54 – Where to find John + wrap

🔍 Primary Keywords MSP account management, MSP primary business model, MSP automation, MSP marketing strategy

🔍 Secondary Keywords customer portal HR forms, VAR pitfalls MSP, lifecycle insights vCIO, MSP profitability

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