Recorded on Tuesday 7 October 2025, this episode confronts the murders at Heaton Park on Yom Kippur and the sharp rise in antisemitism in the UK. We name the harm plainly and we hold the line between free speech and incitement.

We don’t posture; we do the hard work of sense-making. We explore why silence from institutions and politicians corrodes trust, how slogan-chanting lands as eradication to Jewish citizens, and why leaders must support protest rights clearly and also enforce the law on incitement consistently, not selectively. We acknowledge parallel harms, including arson at a Sussex mosque and the daily experience of British Muslims facing prejudice. But we don’t take refuge in the false comfort of “whataboutery”.

This is a practical conversation for people who run things CEOs, headteachers, council leaders, community organisers. We offer three commitments you can enact now:

1. Curiosity with backbone: seek understanding across difference without surrendering facts. Try to find agreement not just disagreement.

2. Even-handed moral clarity: condemn antisemitism and Islamophobia without purity tests or exemptions.

3. Local dialogue, real guardrails: create forums where disagreement is safe, and incitement is not.

4. In everyday conversation commit to civility – only ever try to explore and at best convince but not to win.

Not virtue. Not theatre. Leadership. We have the conversation you want to. Please do listen, like and share.

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