In this episode of The Mess and the Magic, Casey sits down with Lisa Condon: Business strategist, international bestselling author, founder of the Gratitude Program, and self-proclaimed spark. With certifications ranging from Six Sigma Black Belt to Scrum Master, Lisa blends process with heart to guide leaders into values-driven lives and businesses.

Lisa opens up about her messy twenties—leaving a promising corporate career, divorce, the sudden loss of her mother, and the anxiety and depression that followed. Through it all, she discovered the radical clarity of gratitude, eventually channeling a “download” that became her Nine Steps of Gratitude framework.

Together, Casey and Lisa dive into:

• Living from values instead of pressure

• How to ask intentional questions that spark transformation

• Why gratitude is not fluff, but a verb

• The power of being a Reflector in Human Design

• Identity shifts, loss, and the courage to choose alignment

• Building community in new places, and outgrowing relationships with love

This episode is as heartfelt as it is strategic, as inspiring as it is actionable—perfect for anyone navigating their own messy middle.

Key Takeaways:

• Gratitude is a verb. It’s more than a list—it’s how you live, act, and breathe daily.

• Nine Steps of Gratitude: ground, reflect, accept, thank, ignite, transform, uncover, decide, emerge. You’re always somewhere in this cycle.

• Intentional questions spark clarity. One question can unravel years of “shoulds.”

• Your flavor matters. Just like champagne vs. hamburgers, own your unique flavor in business and life.

• Messy seasons are teachers. Lisa’s twenties taught her about loss, resilience, and alignment.

• Reflector power (HD). As 1% of the population, Lisa reflects others’ truths back to them, a superpower in coaching.

• Loss isn’t just death. It’s also loss of direction, identity, and old versions of self.

• • Alignment over approval. Not everyone has to be your people—and that’s freedom.

  
  

  Who This Episode Is For:

• • Women navigating big life transitions (career shifts, loss, new seasons)

  • Coaches, leaders, and healers seeking values-driven strategy

  • Anyone curious about gratitude as a practical tool, not just a buzzword

  • Listeners interested in Human Design and Reflector wisdom

• • High achievers learning to release the “shoulds” and live authentically

  
  

  Resources Mentioned

• • Lisa’s Website: lisacondon.com
  • Casey's Website: www.highestself.me

• • The Gratitude Program – Lisa’s signature framework

  • Nine Steps of Gratitude – ground, reflect, accept, thank, ignite, transform, uncover, decide, emerge

  • Books & Tools Mentioned:

    • The Four Agreements – Don Miguel Ruiz