
‘They want us to blink first’: AOC on Trump shutdown showdown
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September 30, 2025; 8pm: Tonight, Chris is live from Chicago with Mayor Brandon Johnson and the Governor of Illinois JB Pritzker. Plus, Sen. Ruben Gallego on Trump's alarming address to military brass. And hours away from a shutdown, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortez on the Democratic strategy and the stakes for America.
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