Today’s episode tackles the sweeping shifts in U.S. immigration policy—tightened legal immigration, mass deportation efforts, and the rollback of existing due process protections for legal residents and undocumented workers—while modeling how to debate fiercely held views without dehumanizing one another. Joining me is Maggie Mitchell Salem, a returning guest and one of the country’s leading immigration experts. Maggie is known for her candid, nonpartisan approach and she brings clear-eyed insight on what’s changed, what hasn’t, and how we can have sensible immigration policy. Leigh and Maggie explore how we can bridge divides by creating spaces for good-faith dialogue, separate fact from spin, name trade-offs, and still hold fast to shared American values including dignity, safety, kindness, and the rule of law.

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In this episode, we explore one of the most complex and emotionally charged dimensions of modern health and well-being: health insurance.. Premiums rise, benefits are confusing to understand, and many of us have stories of great frustration with the system. At the same time, those who have insurance know—often from personal experience—the critical role that it plays in our daily lives. Debates about health insurance can also be deeply polarizing, yet this is precisely why we need to make time to listen, learn and look for creative ways to improve the system. My guest, Jamie Williams, brings deep industry knowledge from her years as a well respected executive in the sector. She is also a steady voice of clarity, helping us explore how we got where we are today, what isn’t working well, what is, and how to bridge divides that keep us apart.

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Let’s be honest: an epidemic of lying is infecting public discourse. From political stages to policy debates, from newsfeeds to dinner tables, dishonesty has become disturbingly normalized. Many of us feel caught between exhaustion—burying our heads in the sand under the sheer volume of misinformation—and frustration as we scramble to correct falsehoods that seem endless. But here’s the hopeful truth: this is not inevitable. In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan offers four simple practices to help us turn the tide, strengthen our communities, bridge divides, and nurture a culture of compelling honesty.

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