
Two-Time Emmy Winner Theresa H.K.: The Playbook to Beat a Cold Job Market
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About this listen
You are not your job title. That’s where this conversation begins.
Today on Experience Over Expectation, I sit down with Theresa Hummel-Krallinger (Theresa H.K.)—two-time Emmy winner, author of Make Waves, President & Chief People Officer at High Five Performance, university professor, and a stand-up comic of 20+ years. She’s helped job seekers since 2003, and she’s seen every season of the market—hot, cold, and confusing.
Theresa’s “Boat Model” is the kind of simple, sturdy thinking we need right now:
- Rudder – your direction
- Hull – your skills/experience
- Sails – your reputation and brand (degrees, certs, public work)
- Motor – your network that moves you even when there’s no wind
It’s humane, practical, and—most of all—doable.
Watch on YouTube: Two-Time Emmy Winner Theresa H.K.: The Playbook to Beat a Cold Job Market (paste your YouTube link here)
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What we cover- Why we confuse identity with employment—and how to separate them
- How a comic’s eye for everyday life makes you a better communicator at work
- The Boat Model and how to sketch your own “career vessel”
- Networking for introverts (relationship-first, not schmooze-first)
- What leaders get wrong about retention (hint: tell people they’re top talent)
- Financial right-sizing so a job loss isn’t a life collapse
Theresa’s Playbook (quick hits)
- Don’t park your soul at the door. You bring your whole self to the work—humor included.
- Tend the garden year-round. Help others before you need help. That’s real networking.
- Stay out of complacency. Keep learning, keep building reputation signals, keep showing your work.
- Live within your means. Overextension turns a layoff into a crisis.
- Leaders: say the quiet part out loud. If someone’s top talent, tell them. It matters.
Try this mini-exercise
Draw your boat, honestly.
- What’s your rudder pointing toward? If unclear, write what good looks like for you.
- Is your hull strong? Which skills need reinforcement?
- How full are your sails? List visible proof of credibility (projects, posts, certs, talks).
- Does your motor start? Name 10 people you could help this month—then do it, no asks attached.
Save your sketch. Revisit quarterly.
Favorite moments & chapter markers- 00:00 – Why identity ≠ employment
- 02:00 – The origin of Make Waves and helping job seekers since 2003
- 04:00 – Stand-up comedy for work: building the “humor muscle”
- 10:28 – The Boat Model: rudder, hull, sails, motor
- 15:45 – The twin traps: complacency and overextension
- 18:18 – Networking that feels human (and works for introverts)
- 23:07 – Retaining top talent: tell them they’re top talent
- 26:21 – Making waves by leaving corporate to build your own thing
- 27:58 – Ikigai: joy, skill, need, and pay—finding the overlap
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