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Two-Time Emmy Winner Theresa H.K.: The Playbook to Beat a Cold Job Market

Two-Time Emmy Winner Theresa H.K.: The Playbook to Beat a Cold Job Market

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You are not your job title. That’s where this conversation begins.

Today on Experience Over Expectation, I sit down with Theresa Hummel-Krallinger (Theresa H.K.)—two-time Emmy winner, author of Make Waves, President & Chief People Officer at High Five Performance, university professor, and a stand-up comic of 20+ years. She’s helped job seekers since 2003, and she’s seen every season of the market—hot, cold, and confusing.

Theresa’s “Boat Model” is the kind of simple, sturdy thinking we need right now:

  • Rudder – your direction
  • Hull – your skills/experience
  • Sails – your reputation and brand (degrees, certs, public work)
  • Motor – your network that moves you even when there’s no wind

It’s humane, practical, and—most of all—doable.

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What we cover
  • Why we confuse identity with employment—and how to separate them
  • How a comic’s eye for everyday life makes you a better communicator at work
  • The Boat Model and how to sketch your own “career vessel”
  • Networking for introverts (relationship-first, not schmooze-first)
  • What leaders get wrong about retention (hint: tell people they’re top talent)
  • Financial right-sizing so a job loss isn’t a life collapse

Theresa’s Playbook (quick hits)
  • Don’t park your soul at the door. You bring your whole self to the work—humor included.
  • Tend the garden year-round. Help others before you need help. That’s real networking.
  • Stay out of complacency. Keep learning, keep building reputation signals, keep showing your work.
  • Live within your means. Overextension turns a layoff into a crisis.
  • Leaders: say the quiet part out loud. If someone’s top talent, tell them. It matters.

Try this mini-exercise

Draw your boat, honestly.

  • What’s your rudder pointing toward? If unclear, write what good looks like for you.
  • Is your hull strong? Which skills need reinforcement?
  • How full are your sails? List visible proof of credibility (projects, posts, certs, talks).
  • Does your motor start? Name 10 people you could help this month—then do it, no asks attached.

Save your sketch. Revisit quarterly.

Favorite moments & chapter markers
  • 00:00 – Why identity ≠ employment
  • 02:00 – The origin of Make Waves and helping job seekers since 2003
  • 04:00 – Stand-up comedy for work: building the “humor muscle”
  • 10:28 – The Boat Model: rudder, hull, sails, motor
  • 15:45 – The twin traps: complacency and overextension
  • 18:18 – Networking that feels human (and works for introverts)
  • 23:07 – Retaining top talent: tell them they’re top talent
  • 26:21 – Making waves by leaving corporate to build your own thing
  • 27:58 – Ikigai: joy, skill, need, and pay—finding the overlap

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