
Alan Lazaros on Social Courage, the “Out-” Playbook, and Building Your Next Level You
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About this listen
I invited Alan Lazaros on Experience Over Expectation because his story hits the heartbeat of this project: when life veers off script, you can either cling tighter to the plan—or you can build something truer.
At 26, Alan survived a car crash that forced a reckoning. He was already “successful” by the world’s measures, but the inner story didn’t match. That tension became fuel. Today he’s the founder/CEO of Next Level University, leading a global team and hosting a Top-100 podcast with 1M+ listens across 175+ countries. The work? Helping people pursue their version of success—not the one they were handed.
What we got into- My Founder Cycle (conceive → decide → resource → execute) and how many of us run that loop without naming it.
- Alan’s “Out-” framework—a deceptively simple sequence: Outfocus, Outrisk, Outwork, Outlearn, Outgrow, Outskill, Outtool, Outlead, Outlast.
- Social courage vs. the performance of success. Are we building reputations… or character?
- Boundaries & belonging as you grow. How to find your “absolutely people” (and kindly release the “absolutely not”).
- What to tell a 12-year-old about responsibility, humility, and belief.
- The one question Alan asks himself constantly: Why?
“All great things come from people who take responsibility.” —AlanWatch / Listen
- YouTube: https://youtu.be/11ZvDQ2g3ls
- Podcast: https://feeds.captivate.fm/experience-over-expectation/
- Alan’s world: nextleveluniverse.com
Try this (a pocket exercise)
- Name one place you’re performing for the plan.
- Ask why (five times if you have to).
- Replace the performance with one honest action that serves who you actually are.
- Tiny moves count. They compound.
Book note
My book Experience Over Expectation arrives September 23, 2025. If the message resonates—letting go of rigid timelines and living on your terms—pre-orders are open at marymccorvey.com. Early readers help more than you know.
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Thank you for being here—for the stories, the courage, and the curiosity to keep asking why. That’s how we grow.
With gratitude,
Mary