The church is ordered so that good can run wild. God appoints leaders to commission the laity in the church’s ministry and mission. Pastors and ministry leaders serve and organize the church in such a way that people in their care can pursue their unique gifts. In Lay Leadership: For the Care of Souls, Aaron Perry empowers pastors to empower laity in leadership. I enjoyed this conversation with Aaron and hope you do to.

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Here’s Aaron’s book - https://lexhampress.com/product/305969/lay-leadership-for-the-care-of-souls

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