This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation is a little different. With our parents absent — after the loss of their beloved dog, Kitty Kat Sugar Bear, and Dad recovering from a fall — it’s just Chad and Haley behind the mics.

We take this moment to reflect on what 3 years of doing this show has meant for us, our family, and our listeners. From fiery debates to unexpected breakthroughs, the journey has been as messy as it has been meaningful.

💬 Topics We Cover:

The Show

• How 3 years of weekly arguments have changed us
• What friends, coworkers, and family think about the podcast
• Are we still glad we’re doing it?

Family Dynamics

• Rising tensions, especially with Dad
• Do Mom and Dad actually believe the extreme things they say on air?
• Can the show change their views?
• Worries about Dad’s health — and the possibility of him moving in with Haley
• Talking to our kids about politics & Trump’s America

Politics

• Are there any “good” billionaires?
• Is America already authoritarian?
• Can Democrats turn things around — or have Republicans already won?
• What does a post-Trump America look like?
• Will Trump supporters ever change their minds?

It’s an unfiltered, intimate conversation — just the siblings this time — as we look back, look forward, and ask: Has this podcast made any difference at all?

👉 Drop your thoughts in the comments: Do you think debates like this can actually change minds?
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