Lauren and Lacey kick off their brand-new Serial Killer September series by discussing how investigations into serial crimes have changed over the decades. From the days when police departments rarely shared information across state lines to today’s use of CODIS, DNA databases, and even familial DNA through ancestry websites, the tools for catching killers look dramatically different.

The conversation explores both the promise and pitfalls of DNA evidence, how it has freed the innocent, convicted the guilty, and in some cases raised concerns about privacy, contamination, and misuse. They also dig into the psychological side of serial killers, comparing public perceptions of “likable” figures like Ted Bundy to the disturbing patterns seen in cases such as Pee Wee Gaskins, John Wayne Gacy, and South Carolina’s Todd Kohlhepp.

The hosts tackle the differences between mass murderers and serial killers, the debate over whether genetics could ever play a role in sentencing, and how cases like the Golden State Killer changed the game with new science. To wrap things up on a lighter note, Lauren and Lacey share their thoughts on Cardi B’s hilarious courtroom moments and what they reveal about how celebrity clients are treated differently on the stand.

This episode sets the stage for a month-long dive into infamous serial killers.

Next up: Ted Bundy.

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