
0405 - Scaling Without Chaos
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About this listen
“Scaling doesn’t have to mean stress. The right systems and mindset make growth smoother — not harder.”
In this episode, co-hosts Danielle Cuomo, MBA, and Nicole Gallicchio-Elz sit down with Laurie Barkman, who helps business owners escape the day-to-day grind and scale with more freedom, greater value, and less chaos. Laurie shares practical strategies and mindset shifts for leaders who want growth without losing control — and explains how to help even the most analytical CEOs embrace delegation and leadership development.
💡 What We Cover:
- How to recognize when it’s time to step back from daily operations
- The systems and leadership strategies that prevent chaos while scaling
- Mindset shifts every business owner needs to move from operator to visionary
- How to guide technical or analytical leaders into effective delegation
Top Takeaways for Leaders:
- Scaling is about clarity, not control
- Freedom comes from trust, systems, and team alignment
- Leadership growth often requires stepping back, not doubling down
Common Misunderstandings We See:
- Believing growth = more complexity and stress
- Thinking technical skills alone can carry a business to the next level
- Assuming delegation means losing control
Why This Matters:
If you want your business to grow without running you into the ground, you need more than hustle — you need the right systems, leadership habits, and mindset shifts. Laurie shows us how to scale smarter, not harder.
Closing Thoughts:
Chaos is optional. With the right systems and mindset, scaling can actually simplify your business and give you back control where it matters most.
📌 CTA:
Take a look at your current systems and leadership habits — are they designed for scale, or are they holding you back? Start small: identify one area you can delegate, automate, or systemize this week.
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🔗 Connect With Us on LinkedIn:
👤 Nicole Gallicchio – linkedin.com/in/nicolegallicchio
👤 Danielle C. – linkedin.com/in/djc287
📚 Grab your copy of Not Your Average CEO:
https://a.co/d/aPgacvt
🔗 Connect with Laurie: BTSherpa.com Book: https://btsherpa.com/book
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