Betina and Jen talk about their relationships with shame, or in Jen’s case, the lack thereof. They explore how to treat shame as an early warning system, how to look it in the face and get the lessons it's here to teach us before it turns toxic.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

01:11 Moral Compass Temp Check

09:37 Just do the next right thing

11:59 Jen’s miscarriage update

14:39 Backstory: Times when healthy shame guided you to better choices vs when toxic shame paralyzed you

32:12 LifeFocus: Reclaiming shame as a tool for growth rather than self-destruction

45:24 Recipes: Accountability Appetizer

Recipes:

Betina’s Wasabi Crab Dip

Ingredients:

Large can of lump crab meat

Green onion

Wasabi mayo

Regular mayo

Lemon juice

Salt and pepper

Mix ingredients together and serve with crackers, tortilla chips (homemade) or crustinis

Jen’s Jalapeno Poppers

Slice the jalapenos in half (cut out the ribs and/or seeds) to control heat

Load softened cream cheese mixed with cheddar cheese

Pack cheese into the jalapeno

Dredge in milk

Roll in flour

Set aside for 10 minutes

Dip in milk

Roll in plain Panko bread crumbs

Set aside again for 10 minutes

Dip in milk again

Roll in bread crumbs

Fry for 2-3 minutes until crisp

Cool on paper towel.

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

14:27 “There is a Light (Instrumental Version)” - Stonekeepers

29:16 “Sweet Thang” - Daniel Fridell

44:56 “Alley Cats” - Matt Large

52:47 “Pop Off (Instrumental Version)” - Janset

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A candid conversation about the communities that shape us and the ones we're called to build. Jen and Betina examine the reciprocal nature of authentic community: how to pour into others while also creating space to receive support when you need it most. From personal stories to practical steps, they explore expanding your circle of influence and accountability beyond your closest relationships.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

00:38 Social Impact Temp Check

03:10 Jen shares a very personal event

38:19 Backstory: How your friendship has influenced your broader community involvement

Loose ties

49:19 Life focus: Expanding accountability beyond personal relationships

59:19 Recipes: Potluck contribution

Recipes:

Jen’s Pasta Salad

Traditional pasta salad made with

Ziti pasta (might be penne)

add:

Shredded cheddar cheese

pimento

Betina’s Mac and Cheese

Ingredients

Large elbow macaroni

Shred sharp cheddar and mild cheddar cheeses

Sour cream

Philadelphia Cream Cheese

Half stick of butter

1 can evaporated milk

Salt and white pepper

While shredding cheese, Boil noodles to just under al dente

Set cheese aside

Drain noodles

Transfer into baking dish

While still hot add cream cheese, salt pepper and butter

Mix well

Add sour cream and mix

In a saucepan add some milk and cheese, whisking consistently over medium heat

Continue adding milk and cheese until cheese sauce is smooth and the consistency of Velveeta

Use ⅔ of your cheese for the sauce

Be careful not to burn.

(you can season your cheese sauce here if you want)

Pour over noodles, mix well ensuring all pasta is coated

Taste and add additional seasoning if necessary

Put the remaining cheese over the top

Cover and bake for 20 minutes on 350 degrees. Last 5 minutes bake uncovered

***Note: The pimento cheese dip Jen mentioned is called Palmetto

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

18:35 “Shadows in My Face” - Aiyo

30:36 “The Message” - Bonsaye

48:44 “Our Declaration” - Wanna Beat

67:35 “Love on Me” - Katnip

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In this episode, Betina and Jen explore the deeper psychology behind our relationships with material possessions. They examine how moving beyond pure materialism doesn't mean rejecting all things, but rather developing intentional connections with what we own. The conversation weaves through practical fashion philosophy (including the art of mixing high and low-end pieces) while maintaining minimalist principles that prioritize quality over quantity.

The hosts share their preference for timeless wardrobe staples that transcend seasonal trends, discussing how this approach reflects broader life values. Jen opens up about her current project of transforming her living space into a welcoming environment designed for connection and hospitality. Throughout their discussion, they reveal how our choices about what to keep, display, and surround ourselves with serve as mirrors for our inner emotional landscape and personal growth.

Time stamps:

00:00 Intros

01:04 Attachment Temp Checks

11:35 The high value of beauty

24:28 Backstory: Different approaches to minimalism and what we each hold on to

25:14 Do the things you have spark joy?

31:55 Having a right relationship with things

39:50 Life Focus: How our relationships with objects reflect our relationship with ourselves

46:30 How differently the hosts view boho styles

50:28 Betina’s Christmas decorating goals

52:45 Recipes

Click the following link to access Betina’s Creamy Chicken and Rice and Rajashree Auntie’s Pav Bhaji :

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYPlgZDOmx5B0bbIIHsQTbjNWIE4Ua3yt-amULPa2-Y/edit?usp=sharing

Music Credits:

0:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

17:24 “Caribbean Taco” - HATAMITSUNAMI

33:57 “Back at It” - Dyalla

52:21 “Bukina B” - Gil Felix

61:41 “Side by Side” - Tomas Skyldeberg

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