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We Have A Meeting

We Have A Meeting

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Every week, Jack Frimston and Zac Thompson from We Have A Meeting chat with brilliant entrepreneurs about sales, mindset, marketing, and everything in between. It’s smart, human, and full of ideas you can actually use. Tune in for sharp conversations, fresh perspectives, and a few laughs along the way.We Have A Meeting Career Success Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales Personal Development Personal Success
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  • AI Is Replacing Your Business and You Don’t Even Know It: Jodie Cook
    Feb 25 2026
    In this episode, we sit down with Jodie Cook, An entrepreneur, investor, and founder who built and sold a 7-figure social media agency before turning her focus to AI-powered systems. We talk about building a business from 22, scaling to a team of 20, and what it really takes to create a company you can step away from. Jodie shares how her athlete mindset shaped her success, why most coaches struggle with lead generation, and how AI is transforming the way experts attract clients. This is a conversation about leverage, discipline, scaling smart, and building businesses that don’t rely on you. If you're a founder, coach, or entrepreneur navigating the AI shift, this one’s for you! Enjoy :) Learn more about Jodie - https://www.jodiecook.com Hear more from the Hosts: Jack - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-frimston-5010177b/?originalSubdomain=uk Zac - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zac-thompson-33a9a39b/ Brought to you by our amazing sponsors: *Prospeo,* the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outbound and lead generation. 98% more effective at finding mobile numbers and email addresses. Try it free at https://www.prospeo.io/wham *Nooks* The AI-powered platform helping teams automate outbound sales and book more qualified meetings. To learn more visit https://www.nooks.ai
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    51 mins
  • Salespeople Who Swear Close 8% More Deals (Here’s Why)
    Feb 17 2026
    Salespeople who swear on their calls close 8% more deals. Marketing teams using pink and purple instead of "Series A Blues" get more attention. Companies that avoid pissing anyone off end up exciting no one. In this episode, we sit down with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist and former CMO at Gong, to unpack the psychology behind courageous marketing, the real impact of AI on sales teams, and why being different beats being better every single time. Udi reveals how Gong built one of the most recognizable brands in B2B by rejecting best practices, embracing controversy, and creating a culture where teams feel safe to fail. From the drooling bulldog mascot that made enterprise customers angry, to the viral research on swearing in sales calls, to the plain-text email that generated 700 event registrations in hours—this is a masterclass in standing out in a sea of sameness. We also dive deep into AI: what it can actually do right now, what it can't, and why the creators of ChatGPT don't use ChatGPT to run their revenue teams. Spoiler: AI isn't coming for your job. But salespeople who know how to use AI are coming for the jobs of those who don't. What You'll Learn: Why swearing on sales calls increases win rates by 8% The danger of "best practices" and why boring is the biggest risk in B2B marketing How to build a brand that polarizes—without crossing the line The two buckets of AI: what it can automate vs. what it can guide you on Why OpenAI and Anthropic use Gong to run their revenue teams (and what that tells you about generic LLMs) The plain-text email experiment that got 700 event sign-ups in hours How to create psychological safety on your team so they take risks and do their best work Why indifference is worse than hate when it comes to your messaging From privacy policy emails that went viral, to bulldogs on login screens, to the Starburst logo that refused to fit neatly into a square, this episode will change how you think about marketing, sales, and standing out in 2026. If your brand feels invisible, your messaging feels safe, or your team feels stuck playing by the rules everyone else is playing by, this conversation will give you permission to break free. Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outbound and lead generation. 98% more effective at finding mobile numbers and email addresses. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham About the Guest: Udi Ledergor is Chief Evangelist and former CMO at Gong, and author of the bestselling book Courageous Marketing: How to Take the Boring Out of B2B. He's known for building bold, unconventional marketing teams and helping sales leaders understand how AI is transforming their world. Find Udi on LinkedIn and grab his book wherever books are sold. Chapters: 00:00 Salespeople Who Swear Close 8% More Deals: The Research That Went Viral 02:15 Who Is Udi Ledergor: From Gong CMO to Chief Evangelist 04:30 Courageous Marketing: Why Different Beats Better Every Time 08:12 The Series A Blues Problem: How Gong Chose Pink and Purple 11:45 The Drooling Bulldog: When Enterprise Customers Hated the Brand 15:20 How to Be Polarizing Without Crossing the Line 19:03 The Plain-Text Email That Got 700 Event Registrations in Hours 23:47 AI vs Automation: What's Actually New and What's Just Rebranded 28:34 The Two Buckets of AI: Automation and Guidance 32:19 Why OpenAI Uses Gong to Run Their Revenue Team 36:55 Are We Losing Critical Thinking by Outsourcing to AI? 41:28 Building Courageous Teams: Psychological Safety and Process Accountability 47:12 The Privacy Policy Email That Went Viral on Twitter 50:45 One Question to Ask Yourself: How Can You Break Away From Boring Practices? #CourageousMarketing #UdiLedergor #Gong #SalesPsychology #AIinSales #B2BMarketing #WeHaveAMeeting
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    44 mins
  • The Sales Advice That Offended Half the Internet
    Feb 16 2026
    Does dropping an F-bomb actually close more deals? Udi Ledergor shared the data point that shocked the sales world: salespeople who swear on calls have an 8% higher win rate than those who don't. The reaction was instant chaos. One-third of people were appalled, calling it "unprofessional." The other two-thirds? They knew we were onto something real. In this sneak peek with Udi Ledergor, we dive into the controversial "Profanity Study" and the philosophy of Courageous Marketing. Key takeaways: Why "safe" marketing is actually the most dangerous strategy The psychology behind why polarising content wins Why indifference is the true enemy of sales growth Subscribe for the full episode dropping tomorrow! Chapters: 00:00 The Swearing Sales Stat That Broke the Internet 00:35 The Marketer's Dream: When Half Love It and Half Hate It 00:52 The Indifference Problem: If Nobody's Pissed Off, Nobody Cares 01:45 The Core Domain Exercise: Defining Your Brand Identity 02:08 What People Say When You Leave the Room: The Jeff Bezos Brand Test 02:20 From Best Practices to Courageous Marketing: Making the Transition Sponsored by Prospeo, the easiest way to find verified emails and contact data for outbound and lead generation. Try it free at prospeo.io/wham #SalesAdvice #CourageousMarketing #B2BMarketing #Polarizing #SalesPsychology #WeHaveAMeeting
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    3 mins
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