• Turning Grief Into Change After Grace’s Tinder Murder with Gillian Millane OBE on The Resilience Project podcast, hosted by Wes Linden
    Dec 8 2025

    In this deeply moving episode of The Resilience Project, Wes Linden speaks with Gillian Millane OBE, a mother, campaigner, and extraordinary woman whose life was torn apart when her daughter Grace never came home.

    In December 2018, Grace Millane, a bright and adventurous 22-year-old, was murdered while travelling in New Zealand by a man she met on Tinder. The case shocked the world and exposed deeply uncomfortable truths about violence against women and the narratives too often used to excuse it.

    Rather than allowing grief to consume her, Gillian chose to turn devastating loss into purpose. Her victim impact statement was seen across the world. She went on to campaign tirelessly to help end the so-called 'rough sex' defence in UK courts, contributing to landmark legal change. Alongside Grace’s cousin Hannah, she co-founded Love Grace, a charity that has now supported tens of thousands of women escaping abuse across multiple countries.

    Gillian also reflects on losing her husband David, receiving an OBE from Prince William, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro and trekking to Everest Base Camp, and what resilience truly means when life delivers its harshest blows.

    An amazing way to start Season 2, this is a powerful conversation about grief, justice, kindness, courage, and what it really takes to keep going.


    🔗 Useful Links

    Love Grace Charity: ⁠https://www.lovegrace.co.uk⁠

    Support the Love Grace appeal: ⁠https://www.lovegrace.co.uk/donate⁠

    Follow Wes on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/weslinden⁠

    Follow Wes on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslinden⁠

    Never miss an episode: ⁠https://www.weslinden.com/podcast⁠


    ⏱️ Episode Chapters

    00:00 Welcome to The Resilience Project
    02:49 Who Grace was and why she was so special
    03:50 Favourite childhood memories of Grace
    04:53 Learning of Grace’s disappearance and what followed
    07:04 Delivering the victim impact statement
    08:21 Campaigning to change the “rough sex” defence
    10:50 Losing her husband David and navigating compounded grief
    13:14 You cannot change circumstances, only how you respond
    15:08 The power of family, friendship and global support
    16:55 Why the world is not as dark as social media suggests
    18:15 The global impact of Grace’s story and the vigils
    19:47 Founding the Love Grace charity with Hannah
    22:38 The growing reach and impact of Love Grace
    23:52 Future plans for the charity
    25:08 How listeners can support Love Grace
    26:59 Receiving an OBE from Prince William
    27:48 Climbing Kilimanjaro
    29:38 What the mountains taught about resilience
    31:56 One foot in front of the other
    32:47 Turning grief into action and rebuilding purpose
    34:55 Balancing self-care with honouring Grace
    36:10 How physical training supports mental health
    37:13 Advice for those feeling overwhelmed
    37:30 Mindsets that keep you moving forward
    39:57 How Grace should be remembered
    41:11 Choosing kindness in everyday life
    43:16 The meaning behind the climbs and fundraising
    44:29 The difference each of us can make
    45:51 Advice for anyone who feels stuck
    47:14 What resilience truly means
    47:49 Final reflections
    48:38 Closing

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  • From Jail Cell to Prosperity: world-renowned entrepreneur Randy Gage on turning his life around (Ep010)
    May 27 2025

    From a jail cell in his teens to becoming one of the world’s most successful entrepreneurs and a global prosperity icon, Randy Gage’s story is a jaw-dropping testament to resilience!

    Growing up in poverty, battling addiction, surviving a shooting, and losing everything to the IRS, Randy hit rock bottom - hard. Yet, he rose to become a New York Times bestselling author, world-renowned speaker, and prosperity expert, inspiring millions with his no-nonsense approach to success.

    His journey is packed with raw wisdom forged through real-world struggles—insights no ‘guru’ course can match. In this episode of The Resilience Project, host Wes Linden dives into the mindset shifts and principles that transformed Randy from a life of crime and despair to one of abundance and impact (and a rock-star in the network marketing space). Learn how to shatter self-limiting beliefs and turn setbacks into epic comebacks!

    00:00 Start

    01:10 Intro

    02:26 Armed robbery.

    03:16 Were you anti rich?

    04:09 What did time in jail teach you?

    06:41 Finding someone who saw your potential.

    07:47 What was your single biggest lesson about resilience that you learned from these experiences?

    12:45 These are the good old days.

    16:30 You talk about most people are programmed to fail by the age of 8. How could people kind of rewire themselves in adulthood?

    23:56 Understanding how we’re being manipulated.

    34:05 Getting shot.

    36:52 They said you were going to die. You said otherwise.

    40:58 Tax authorities closing your restaurant down.

    44:48 Losing everything.

    46:24 Break

    46:36 What can people learn from the resilience you used go pull through?

    50:01 Putting the difficult times to good use.

    51:28 Reframing failure.

    58:32 Realising it’s you who is at the scene of the crime every time something goes wrong in your life.

    01:05:33 Spotting negative programming.

    01:10:04 Overcoming HIV positive diagnosis.

    01:17:32 Reprogramming yourself when you are thinking negative thoughts.

    01:25:24 Final advice in terms of resilience?

    01:30:38 Closing


    Follow me: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceproject

    Randy's Properity TV channel: https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@randygage⁩

    Randy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randygage/

    Randy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/randy_gage/

    Randy's website: https://randygage.com

    Wes on social:

    https://www.instagram.com/weslinden

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslinden


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  • Traitor's Shocking Survival Story: TV Star Andrew Jenkins on defying death to inspiring millions (Ep 009)
    Mar 14 2025
    At 21, Andrew Jenkins' life changed forever when a catastrophic car accident left him fighting for survival. Initially thought dead at the scene, Andrew defied the odds, emerging from a four-week coma to face a grueling recovery journey. Told he would never walk again, Andrew's determination saw him back on his feet in just two weeks.In this powerful episode of The Resilience Project, host Wes Linden explores Andrew's extraordinary path from trauma survivor to BBC's "The Traitors" finalist & mental health advocate. Andrew shares his 25-year struggle with identity loss, self-worth issues, and the challenges of emotional suppression in a culture of toxic masculinity.Listeners will gain unique insights into:•⁠ ⁠Overcoming physical & mental trauma•⁠ ⁠Breaking the stigma around mental health•⁠ ⁠The power of vulnerability in personal growth & leadership•⁠ ⁠Transforming adversity into a platform for positive changeAndrew's story is a testament to human resilience, from refusing counselling & putting on a brave face to finally opening up about his experiences.He offers valuable perspectives on rebuilding self-identity, the significance of emotional intelligence, and breaking generational cycles of suppressing feelings and vulnerability.Whether you're facing your own life-altering challenges or seeking to understand the complexities of mental health & resilience, Andrew's journey from near-death to becoming an inspiration for millions will motivate you to embrace your own strength and vulnerability.Join us for an episode that challenges traditional notions of masculinity, celebrates the power of authenticity, and demonstrates how one man's tragedy became a catalyst for helping others navigate their own life journeys.00:00 Open02:24 In a split second your life changed. What happened?03:53 So four weeks in a coma?04:54 What kind of work did they have to do on you?06:18 Finalist in the BBC TV series The Traitors. Is fame important to you?07:47 Loss of identity? How did you rebuild your sense of self?09:39 No conversation with your parents about the accident.11:47 The Professor who saved you.14:23 Your family reaction to you finally speaking about the accident?16:37 Changing a generational cycle.18:32 Parents who put too much pressure on their kids.20:28 Therapist advice on how grieving doesn’t only come with death.23:01 What did you learn about your own resilience?24:20 Years of silent struggle & lying on TV!26:11 Your authenticity on TV and strategies for mental health & resilience?29:52 Success & failure.31:24 Doing what it takes.32:45 Break32:58 The big trek - a 1200 kilometre walk.34:22 What kind of resilience lessons did you learn from that?35:25 Motivation vs commitment.36:16 Trek with a Traitor - charity initiative.38:14 What advice would you give to people struggling with self-worth or self-confidence issues?40:15 Taking compliments!43:01 How to help someone who is struggling.43:46 Old-fashioned views on vulnerability vs how we think today.46:11 People being more open.47:18 Vulnerability helping leadership.48:00 What's been the most surprising aspect of your journey? From a brain injury survivor to a TV personality & mental wellbeing advocate?50:35 Being that strong tough guy, who is now open about his feelings.52:48 How can people find you?54:23 What will the world be like because of Andrew in 2050?56:36 Resilience closing words58:56 OutroFollow me: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceprojectAndrew's website: https://andrewjenkins.coWork with Andrew: https://andrewjenkins.co/work-with-andrewDonate to The Big Trek: https://andrewjenkins.co/the-big-trekBook to Trek with a Traitor: https://www.instagram.com/andrewjenkinsofficial/reel/DC1bKsyCMGq/Andrew on social: https://www.instagram.com/andrewjenkinsofficialhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewjenkinsspeakerWes on social: / weslinden / weslinden Never miss an episode: https://www.weslinden.com/podcast
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  • Cheating death on Everest: bullied, stammering Alex Staniforth becomes record-breaker & mental health hero (Ep 008)
    Jan 1 2025

    Having already faced death twice on Mount Everest by the age of 19, having survived two of the deadliest disasters in the mountain's history, Alex Staniforth shares how his greatest challenges weren't on the world's highest peak - they were much closer to home.

    Battling epilepsy, a lifelong stammer, bullying, and mental health issues, Alex's journey is a testament to the power of resilience and the human spirit. From a struggling youth to becoming a record-breaking adventurer, author, and charity founder, his story is one of transformation and inspiration. In this episode of The Resilience Project, host Wes Linden delves into Alex's extraordinary life, uncovering the mindset that drove him to climb all 100 UK county tops in just 72 days, covering an astounding 5,000 miles by human power alone. Alex shares his experiences of turning adversity into opportunity, raising over £100,000 for charity, and founding Mind Over Mountains - a groundbreaking charity that uses nature to restore mental well-being.

    Packed with powerful insights on overcoming personal 'Everests', this conversation explores how Alex harnessed his challenges to fuel his success. From surviving avalanches to battling inner storms, Alex's story offers practical wisdom on building resilience, redefining success, and finding strength in vulnerability. Whether you're facing your own mountains or seeking inspiration to push beyond your limits, Alex's journey from a stammering youth to an ultra-endurance champion and mental health advocate will motivate you to take that first step towards conquering your own peaks. Join us for an episode filled with adventure, courage, and the transformative power of nature in building mental resilience. 00:00 What’s coming up? 00:56 Introduction 01:55 Your first Mount Everest disaster 03:02 Your second Mount Everest disaster 06:10 What’s going through your mind during near-death experiences? 07:12 At what point do you realise, “I think I've survived this?” 10:43 Being stranded 12:43 Psychological guilt complex over those who died 16:48 What motivated you to put yourself into extreme scenarios? 20:18 Moving on from your bullies 21:29 How listeners can overcome bullies and turn adversity into a driver? 24:19 Taming your stammer 30:11 The cost of reaching Everest 33:01 The dedication to achieve 34:36 Break 34:48 Overcoming failure 37:28 Beating other challenges 39:52 Helping people improve their mental wellbeing 45:45 Mental health stats 46:41 Meeting the Queen 47:05 Receiving an award from The Prime Minister 48:17 How to push through when you feel like giving up 51:35 What advice would you give to people who are struggling to move forwards? 53:23 What would you say to your younger self? 55:07 Avoiding doomscrolling 57:35 Mindfulness 58:25 You've written two books so far - 'Icefall: The True Story of a Teenager on a Mission to the Top of the World' and 'Another Peak: Everest Is Not The Only Summit'. What message do you hope readers would take away from those books? 59:58 Closing thoughts for someone who for whatever reason, life isn't going their way right now? 01:02:00 How can people donate to Project 500 or even be part of it? 01:02:43 Will you go back to Everest? 01:03:25 Closing Follow me: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceproject Alex’s book ‘Another Peak: Everest Is Not The Only Summit’ on Amazon (UK): https://amzn.to/4a2pGEN Alex’s book ‘Icefall: The True Story of a Teenager on a Mission to the Top of the World’: https://amzn.to/40eTsD6 Alex’s charity: https://www.mindovermountains.org.uk Donate to Project 500: https://www.justgiving.com/campaign/project500 Alex's speaking website: https://www.alexstaniforth.comAlex on social: https://www.instagram.com/alexstaniforth_ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexstaniforth/ Wes on social: https://www.instagram.com/weslinden https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslinden Never miss an episode: https://www.weslinden.com/podcast

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  • How One Woman's Determination Rewrote The Rules For Women's Rights: Kathrine Switzer's Race Of Rebellion (Ep 007)
    Aug 8 2024

    The year is 1967, and Kathrine Switzer is about to change the world of sports for women - and women's rights - all over the globe.

    Fighting with organisers, the press and even her own partner as they tried to physically remove her from running the Boston Marathon, Switzer stood firm and continued irrespective of the detractors, and joins us on The Resilience Project podcast and shares the touching truths of what it took, to redefine sports for generations of women.

    Her story is one of personal resilience, standing up against the odds, and pushing through barriers that seemed insurmountable at the time.

    Kathrine shares key lessons from her life with host Wes Linden, including the mindset needed to overcome obstacles (sometimes physical), stay determined in the face of adversity, and how to build a legacy that inspires others - plus some incredible advice for parents who want to inspire their children to greatness! Her story is packed with inspiration and resilience lessons that will motivate you to tackle your own challenges with new vigour - and she also shares some incredible insights on forgiveness and how she was able to do so with the man responsible for her darkest moment.


    02:24 How did it start?

    06:35 Applying for the Boston Marathon.

    08:19 Having someone believe in you.

    09:04 Preparing for greatness.

    10:29 The famous number 261.

    10:45 What happened next?

    18:06 Changing society.

    20:03 Breaking the rules.

    21:01 Your boyfriend - hero or zero?

    23:16 Continuing despite the haters.

    28:38 Break

    28:51 Advice for people facing doubters.

    30:40 The Rule of 100.

    32:00 Getting the Women's Marathon into the Olympic Games.

    34:03 Ignoring other people's opinions.

    36:26 Approach towards bad behaviour from others.

    37:02 Keeping focus and showing forgiveness.

    37:36 The importance of patience.

    37:45 Succeeding even if you're not the most talented.

    38:27 Great parenting lessons.

    41:50 Doing the Boston Marathon 50 years later.

    45:20 Changing the world for millions.

    46:13 Are you a Pankhurst/suffragette?!

    47:44 Advice for people who feel they can't get ahead and they're getting in their own way.

    48:47 What is resilience?

    49:11 How will people talk about you in 100 years time?

    49:40 Closing


    Follow me: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceproject


    Kathrine’s book & audio: ‘Marathon Woman’ on Amazon (UK): https://amzn.eu/d/6lMr99E


    Kathrine’s 261 Fearless programs: https://www.261fearless.org


    Kathrine's website:

    https://kathrineswitzer.com


    Kathrine on social:

    https://www.instagram.com/kathrineswitzer


    Wes on social:

    Instagram.com/weslinden

    LinkedIn.com/weslinden


    More about Wes: weslinden.com


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  • From World Cup hat-trick hero to claiming benefits: Sir Geoff Hurst on how to overcome setback & creating a winning mentality (Ep 006)
    Jun 26 2024
    There was a time when the England men’s football team were the pride of the country! Sir Geoff Hurst was a huge part of that! His resilience story has so many layers… *After his playing career was over you may not know he became Chelsea manager for two years. When he left, he became a door-to-door salesman, much to the surprise of his prospective customers. *He was forced to claim unemployment benefits and queue up with people who had idolised him a few years earlier, to support his family. *He scored the hat-trick for England when they won the World Cup in 1966, beating West Germany 4-2. In this episode of The Resilience Project, host Wes Linden chats with Sir Geoff to learn key life lessons, including the mindset you need to be a true winner. Packed full of inspiration and resilience lessons on how to overcome anything, beat disappointments, bounce back stronger, remain humble and build a life of meaning. 00:00 Intro02:48 How much do you remember about what was going through your head during the game?03:50 Everyone remembers where they were when it happened! 04:28 Help us understand the preparation of a winner. 05:35 Importance of teamwork.06:07 At the start of the 1966 World Cup, you weren't first choice - how did you have the mindset that you could get into the team, or had you resigned yourself to being on the sidelines?08:20 Focusing on your own progress, rather than being distracted by others.09:31 Remaining calm under pressure. What can people learn from that for their own lives and career?10:23 You were originally not totally focussed on football career?12:05 It's stereotypical to talk about 1966 World Cup Final but you had an amazing career outside of that. Do you ever feel like your whole life achievements are overshadowed by one moment?12:51 Is your life defined by one moment? 14:19 Imposter syndrome.15:40 The day after the World Cup Final!16:48 Jimmy Greaves feeling like the loneliest person in Wembley Stadium that day, and couldn't bring himself to join the celebrations. How did how did you feel about that? Did you speak to him about it?19:25 Would you have felt the same?20:35 Chelsea manager to door-to-door insurance salesman. What mindset and resilience helped you to adjust to being in the ‘real’ world.22:37 Your dedication.24:31 Break24:45 Overcoming rejection and then still getting up the next day.26:54 Failure and success. 26:59 Leadership traits.28:37 Staying on the right path, and avoiding destructive habits like other celebrities and sportsman can fall into.30:08 The greatest mentor.31:49 Being knighted to become Sir Geoff. How did that feel?33:12 Being unfazed by celebrities and royalty.33:42 Staying grounded and dealing with fame and public attention.34:59 Losing your brother to suicide and dealing with mental health challenges.36:20 Further family grief and being the last surviving member of the England team. How do you keep yourself so positive?38:25 So what advice would you give to youngsters that are watching this who want to be the best in their space, whether that's sports or business or any other avenue?39:00 How would you define resilience?41:07 What message would you hope that people take away from your experiences and your journey?43:18 100 years’ time from now, how would you like history and people to describe Sir Geoff Hurst, the man, and his approach to life?44:11 And finally - was it over the line?!45:22 Do you ever wake up in a cold sweat about the fact, that the referee and linesman decided it didn't go over the line?!46:35 They think it’s all over… it is now! Closing remarks. Follow Wes: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceproject More about Sir Geoff: http://www.geoffhurst.com Sir Geoff's hat-trick - 1966 final highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMDuHPvNtgg Wes on social: https://www.instagram.com/weslinden https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslinden Never miss an episode: https://www.weslinden.com/podcast
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  • Shot, depressed & delivering pizza; Brad Burton's mindset shift to become top entrepreneur (Ep 005)
    Jun 6 2024

    From delivering pizzas aged 31 to becoming one of the UK’s most successful entrepreneurs, Brad Burton has an extraordinary story, that not even he can believe! Having grown up in a rough council estate, Brad was shot at twice and had to relocate his life overnight to the other side of the country. In debt and claiming benefits, he decided enough was enough. He went from delivering pizzas in an old car, barely making the minimum wage - to running a business that was turning over more than two million pounds, as well as become an inspirational speaker and an author of four best-selling books including 'Get Off Your Arse' and 'Now What?' Brad’s extraordinary story is full of wisdom, that you can only learn from having been through the trials and tribulations yourself, and success stories you won’t ever hear from a ‘guru’ selling an expensive course (who have generally never actually built a solid business themselves!) - in fact, I’d go as far as to say, you’ll get all the wisdom you will need to help you unlock your struggles and start taking action by listening this podcast. In this episode of The Resilience Project, host Wes Linden looks to uncover the mindset and resilience principles that took Brad from a life destined for prison, to now being able to live a lifestyle he could only ever dream of, for him and his family. 00:00 Intro 01:25 How did you get from pizza delivery to where you are now? 02:33 At what point did you know you had to change? 03:19 Would you have ended up in prison? 03:44 How did you get out of your situation? 05:39 People will relate even if they haven’t had bullets through the window! 07:38 So how did you go from pizza guy to business owner? 09:26 Resilience & tough times. 10:18 Desperate for instant success. 13:42 Irritating ‘gurus’ selling courses. 16:47 Making choices. 17:28 People kidding themselves. 21:00 How close can a goal be even if it seems far away? 22:55 So you were delivering pizzas in your early thirties. How did your business come from there? 27:55 Not focusing on negativity. 28:46 Imposter syndrome. 29:43 4N 31:03 Importance of building relationships. 33:35 People judging you on how you dress. 36:18 Break 36:31 Is news and social media stealing hope and belief from people? 38:43 Avoiding the news. 39:40 4N was a big thing. 41:40 What's the difference between burnout & breakdown? 43:04 Enthusiasm. 47:34 Success & failure. 49:48 How to stop yourself and others quitting. 53:44 Reaction to success. 56:05 You selling your business. 01:03:48 The Lurpak! 01:07:01 Control the controlables. 01:10:33 What would you say to people about keeping going? 01:12:32 How will people remember Brad Burton? 01:13:10 How do people get through not feeling like they’re enough? 01:14:04 Closing Follow me: https://beacons.ai/theresilienceproject Brad’s books on Amazon (UK): https://t.ly/h8KyK Brad on social: https://www.instagram.com/bradburton Wes on social: https://www.instagram.com/weslinden https://www.linkedin.com/in/weslinden Never miss an episode: https://www.weslinden.com/podcast

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  • Conquering Oceans & Self-Doubt: World-Record Atlantic Rower Bella Collins on mindset & leadership (Ep 004)
    May 2 2024

    Embark on a gripping journey with Bella Collins, a novice rower turned record-breaking adventurer, on ‘The Resilience Project’ podcast.

    Host Wes Linden asks the questions as Bella dives deep into her incredible feat of rowing across the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans in a small boat alongside three strangers. Despite her initial lack of experience and lifelong battle with self-doubt, Bella shattered not just one, but three world records!

    In this episode, Wes uncovers the vital leadership principles Bella harnessed to forge a cohesive and effective team amidst the most extreme, life-threatening conditions. Discover the camaraderie and culture-building strategies that were crucial to their survival and success.

    Bella, now recognised globally following her inclusion in the 'Forbes 30 Under 30' list, also reveals how she developed a resilient mindset, which helped her overcome persistent self-doubt and navigate the uncertainties of her daring expeditions. Join us to learn from a true exemplar of determination.

    00:00 Intro

    01:16 School nerd & unsporty. How did you end up with three world records?

    02:44 First record.

    03:07 Times you let fear beat you.

    05:11: Something that happened when younger that pushed you on this path?

    06:14 Attitudes to risk.

    08:04 First world record.

    10:25 How big is the boat & how confined were you with the others?

    11:31 How do you even sleep?!

    12:25 Only two hours to rest.

    13:43 Cabin fever.15:00 Examples?

    16:32 The next world record.

    16:49 What did you learn about being around people for that length of time in such a small space?

    18:57 Anxiety & mental health.

    20:24 World record with The Ocean Sheroes

    21:25 Training for the winds and waves.

    24:43 Inner strength & resilience to get through the storms at sea.

    26:20 How incredible the Pacific challenge is.

    27:42 Break

    27:55 Family doubting her.

    30:34 Finding your people.

    31:57 Overcoming anyone close to you that you expected to support you who didn't?

    33:22 Overcoming imposter syndrome.

    35:08 Why you’re going to go on the oceans again.

    36:38 Why am I doing this?!

    38:29 Gaps between success and failure.

    39:44 Fearing success?

    40:55 Attitude changes.

    42:01 What would you say you learned from that period that you didn't already know from being isolated on a boat

    43:58 Comparing yourself & your achievements.

    45:39 Comparison issues.

    46:42 Staying in your lane.

    47:33 Most common challenges that your experiences can help people overcome?

    49:07 How to build culture for a high-performing team that actually wants to work together?

    51:12 Succeeding on your own without a team to support you.

    51:54 Moving forwards when feeling lost or trapped.

    54:14 Prepare mentally for the next world record.

    55:58 Is there one question that you thought I might have asked that I didn't, but you've got a great story or answer for?

    56:35 Closing


    Follow me: beacons.ai/theresilienceproject


    Bella's website: bellacollinsadventure.com

    Bella on social:

    instagram.com/collins_bella

    linkedin.com/in/bella-collins

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    instagram.com/weslinden

    linkedin.com/in/weslinden


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