• A Hike in the Clouds with Joël
    Oct 24 2025

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    In this episode, Joël talks about the two stages of faith: the first half focused on receiving blessings and the second half on deeper trust. He shares insights from his new book, “Hiking the Clouds,” exploring spiritual growth beyond initial awakenings. Learn how to mature in your faith journey.

    In this episode, he talks about:

    • The difference between the first and second halves of faith.
    • How to move beyond a transactional relationship with God.
    • The importance of surrender and humility in spiritual maturity.
    • Developing a quiet confidence that transcends certainty.

    00:00 Introduction to Hiking the Clouds
    01:22 First Half of Faith: Jacob’s Story
    03:40 Second Half of Faith: Deeper Surrender
    06:16 Maturity Through Stages of Faith
    08:18 Quiet Confidence and Perpetual Ascent

    Ready to deepen your spiritual walk? Purchase “Hiking the Clouds” today and continue your journey of mature faith!

    #FaithJourney #SpiritualGrowth #ChristianFaith #MatureFaith

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    10 mins
  • Wait... Divorce Isn't a Sin?
    Oct 16 2025

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    Joël and Rick discuss the complex topic of divorce and remarriage within a Christian context, examining scripture and the meaning of “hardness of heart.” They challenge traditional views, offering perspectives on God’s grace and the journey of spiritual growth through relationships. This conversation navigates the messiness of life with biblical insights. (They even talk about how God is divorced.)

    In This Episode:

    00:00 Is Divorce a Sin?

    02:00 Matthew 19 and Hard Hearts

    05:30 Remarriage and Sexual Immorality

    07:37 Internalizing the Law and Marriage’s Value

    09:22 God, Divorce, and Redemption

    12:26 Perpetual Sin and Complexities

    15:24 Marriage Advice and Unequal Yokes

    18:07 Grace, Forgiveness, and Maturity


    #divorce #marriageadvice #biblicaltruth

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    21 mins
  • Staying Hopeful for the Next Generation
    Oct 9 2025

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    Ever wonder how to stay positive as you age and keep hope for the next generation? Joel and his dad, Rick, dive into generational differences. They discuss avoiding bitterness and trusting God’s plan for youth. Join them as they compare today’s world to the 60s and 70s. Learn why the church sometimes misses new spiritual moves. Discover how to raise passionate disciples.

    00:00 Bitter vs. Enjoyable People

    04:24 Generational Bitterness and Hope

    07:22 Recognizing God’s New Moves

    11:59 Spiritual Warfare and Trust

    16:20 Wrapping Up: A Thousand Subscribers!

    What are your thoughts on generational differences and hope for the future? Drop a comment below! Don’t forget to subscribe for more conversations! #NextGen #ChristianPerspective #PodcastDiscussion #FaithTalk #LifeLessons

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    17 mins
  • Dealing with Immature Christians (Can We Slap Them?)
    Oct 2 2025

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    What does Christian maturity really mean? We’re talking real life faith, self-righteousness, and those frustrating moments when Bible knowledge doesn’t equal love. Let’s get honest about spiritual growth.

    Join Joël Malm and Rick Malm as they discuss a viral clip that sparked intense Christian backlash. They share raw insights on dealing with arrogance, the Dunning-Kruger effect in faith, and the true meaning of allowing God’s word to pierce your soul. It’s a candid look at growth, humility, and the patience needed on your spiritual journey.

    00:00 Changing Podcast Format & Work-Life Balance

    03:10 Critiques on Biblical Knowledge vs. Maturity

    07:56 The Dangers of Externalizing Faith

    12:08 Seminary’s Impact and Dealing with Arrogance

    15:46 Possessing Your Soul: A Lifelong Journey

    19:16 Patience and Growth in Faith

    #ChristianMaturity #SpiritualGrowth #FaithJourney #ChurchLife #RealTalk

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    23 mins
  • When You’ve Grown Past Your Coach/Teacher
    Sep 11 2025

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    Explore the evolving dynamics of mentorship with Joel and Rick Malm as they dissect a Zen proverb and biblical wisdom to uncover whether we ever outgrow our mentors, or if the relationship simply transforms. They discuss aging, wisdom, and the essential role of the Holy Spirit in guiding life decisions.

    In This Episode:
    00:00 Outgrowing Mentors: A Zen Proverb

    04:03 Growth, Crystallized Intelligence, and Trust

    08:24 The Need for Wise Counsel

    12:50 Surpassing Mentors and Humility

    Key Takeaways:
    * Examine the Zen proverb: “When the student is ready, the teacher appears; when the student is truly ready, the teacher disappears.”
    * Understand the biblical perspective from Luke 6:40 on mentorship and becoming like the teacher.
    * Recognize the shift from relying on external mentors to trusting the Holy Spirit for guidance.
    * Appreciate the crystallized intelligence and wisdom that comes with age and experience.
    * Maintain humility and openness to counsel, regardless of experience level.

    Resources Mentioned:
    * Luke 6:40: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206%3A40&version=ESV
    * ESV Bible: https://www.esv.org/
    * Hiking the Clouds (book): http://hikingtheclouds.com
    * Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/books/strength-to-strength/
    * The Chosen: https://watch.thechosen.tv/

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    17 mins
  • Hiking the Clouds (Part 9): What is Perfect Love (and How to Get It)
    Aug 28 2025

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    What does “perfect love” really look like? 🤔 We’re unpacking the concept of agape from 2 Peter!


    Join us as we chat about ascending in faith, the role of the church, and opportunities to love.

    00:00 Hiking the Clouds: Agape
    03:33 Churches and Their Callings
    09:03 Humility and Knowing God
    12:50 The Complexity of God’s Love

    What are your thoughts on today’s discussion? Drop a comment below, and don’t forget to subscribe!

    #love #LoveUnconditionally #ChristianPodcast #SpiritualGrowth #BibleDiscussion


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    18 mins
  • Hiking the Clouds (Part 8): Love Without Need is the Key to True Connection
    Aug 21 2025

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    Can you REALLY love your brothers in Christ? 🤔 Joël & Rick get real about expectations, “egocentric love,” & the journey to something deeper.

    They dive into the “Hiking the Clouds” book, exploring:

    • Why loving fellow Christians can be tough
    • The role of self-awareness
    • Why you might be a narcissist (lol)
    • The importance of community

    In this episode:

    00:00 Brotherly Love vs. Agape

    03:43 Shattering Illusions for True Love

    08:10 Detachment: Loving Without Need

    13:07 Community and True Compassion

    Hit play and let’s talk love! ❤️

    #LoveAndFaith #ChristianLiving #Relationships #Community #RealTalk

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    18 mins
  • Hiking the Clouds (Part 7): What is real godliness?
    Aug 14 2025

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    What is a "godly" person? Joël and Rick Malm into the complexities of godliness as they continue their journey through the first draft of Joël's book, “Hiking the Clouds.” They explore the balance between rational understanding and embracing the mystery of faith, challenging conventional Western Christian perspectives. In

    This Episode:

    00:00 Welcome Back and Book Updates

    01:00 The Challenge of Self-Control

    02:00 Understanding Godliness

    03:30 Embracing Paradoxes in Faith

    05:00 The Mystery of God

    08:00 The Journey of Letting Go

    10:00 The Second Half of Faith

    12:00 Rattling Theological Cages

    14:00 Navigating Uncertainty in Faith


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    http://rickmalm.com

    Share this episode and subscribe for more in-depth conversations! #FaithJourney #SpiritualGrowth #HikingTheClouds #Theology #SelfAwareness

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    17 mins