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Explore the evolving dynamics of mentorship with Joel and Rick Malm as they dissect a Zen proverb and biblical wisdom to uncover whether we ever outgrow our mentors, or if the relationship simply transforms. They discuss aging, wisdom, and the essential role of the Holy Spirit in guiding life decisions.

In This Episode:
00:00 Outgrowing Mentors: A Zen Proverb

04:03 Growth, Crystallized Intelligence, and Trust

08:24 The Need for Wise Counsel

12:50 Surpassing Mentors and Humility

Key Takeaways:
* Examine the Zen proverb: “When the student is ready, the teacher appears; when the student is truly ready, the teacher disappears.”
* Understand the biblical perspective from Luke 6:40 on mentorship and becoming like the teacher.
* Recognize the shift from relying on external mentors to trusting the Holy Spirit for guidance.
* Appreciate the crystallized intelligence and wisdom that comes with age and experience.
* Maintain humility and openness to counsel, regardless of experience level.

Resources Mentioned:
* Luke 6:40: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206%3A40&version=ESV
* ESV Bible: https://www.esv.org/
* Hiking the Clouds (book): http://hikingtheclouds.com
* Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/books/strength-to-strength/
* The Chosen: https://watch.thechosen.tv/

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What does “perfect love” really look like? 🤔 We’re unpacking the concept of agape from 2 Peter!

Join us as we chat about ascending in faith, the role of the church, and opportunities to love.

00:00 Hiking the Clouds: Agape
03:33 Churches and Their Callings
09:03 Humility and Knowing God
12:50 The Complexity of God’s Love

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