Nicole Goode is a Certified Functional Medicine Consultant, Registered Nutritional Therapist (BANT CNHC) and BANT-Registered Nutritionist. She’s the creator of The MitoImmune® Method, and author of the bestselling book, Optimal YOU.

Nicole has been instrumental in helping Chris recover from adrenal burnout and gut health challenges, and in this episode, they discuss how leaders and entrepreneurs can protect their energy, manage stress, and avoid burnout.

Nicole explains what functional medicine really is (and isn’t), why adrenal health matters so much for high achievers, and the surprising connection between gut health and immunity. Together, they dive into the hidden costs of chronic stress and outline three simple, free, and highly effective practices that anyone can start today to boost resilience and performance without sacrificing their wellbeing.

Whether you’re leading a business, a team, or simply your own busy life, this conversation will give you the tools to protect your health for the long-haul.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• Why adrenal health is critical for leaders and entrepreneurs
• The difference between stress that fuels you and stress that destroys you
• The link between gut health, immunity, and burnout
• How low-level daily stressors quietly erode performance
• Three simple and free practices to lower stress naturally
• The truth about supplements, what’s worth taking, and what isn’t

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 02:25 - Nicole Goode's Background and Functional Medicine
• 04:19 - Understanding Functional Medicine and Chronic Illness
• 06:18 - Chris' Personal Health Journey with Nicole
• 07:32 - The Importance of Adrenal Health
• 09:59 - Stress and Its Impact on Health
• 16:23 - Practical Tips for Reducing Stress
• 20:29 - The Power of Nature for Well-being
• 21:25 - Improving Sleep Hygiene
• 22:35 - Managing Screen Time and Notifications
• 27:43 - The Role of Diet in Adrenal Health
• 28:50 - Practical Tips for a Healthier Lifestyle

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Check Out Nicole’s Book, Optimal YOU
• Connect with Nicole on Instagram
• Nicole’s Website

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Jeff Walker is the author of the #1 New York Times bestselling book, Launch. He started his first online business in 1996 and pioneered the very idea of the online launch. His “Product Launch Formula” transformed the online marketing world from the day it was released in 2005. Now all these years later, the Product Launch Formula brand is the gold standard in the online entrepreneurial training market.

In this episode, Chris and Jeff talk about how Jeff has continued to build a sustainable business in today’s noisy online world, why succession planning is top of mind, and how personal mastery practices like meditation, evening shutdown rituals, and gratitude tapping have made him a better leader, husband, and human being.

Whether you’re thinking about scaling, planning your legacy, or simply trying to lead without burning out, this conversation is packed with wisdom from one of the best in the game.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• From live events to virtual summits and back again, Jeff shares how his business model evolved through COVID and beyond
• Why the last five years have required more effort to achieve the same results and how to keep innovating in a noisy marketplace
• How Jeff is preparing the next generation (including his own children) to step into leadership and keep the business thriving long after he steps back
• The importance of focus days, intentional morning routines, and a strict 5 PM shutdown ritual for better health and productivity
• Meditation, gratitude practices, and sleep as true superpowers for being a magnetic, long-term leader

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 03:13 - Jeff Walker's Business Philosophy and Evolution
• 05:01 - Navigating Changes and Challenges in Online Business
• 07:08 - Succession Planning and Family Involvement
• 13:02 - Daily Routines and Personal Mastery
• 18:21 - Finding the Perfect Workout Routine
• 21:54 - Balancing Business and Personal Life
• 24:52 - The Impact of Meditation and Gratitude
• 30:38 - The Journey of Leadership

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Listen to This is Online Business
• Connect with Jeff on Instagram
• Jeff’s Website

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In this very special solo episode, Chris celebrates the launch of his brand-new book, The Long-Haul Leader. After years of writing, refining, and living the lessons inside its pages, Chris shares the full introduction to the book with listeners.

You’ll hear his deeply personal story of burnout, recovery, and reinvention. From 16-hour days as a call center CEO, to a powerful realization that hustle can’t be a lifestyle. Instead, true success is about setting the right pace, protecting your energy, and building something that lasts.

If you’ve ever felt the pressure to hustle harder, this episode will give you both the permission and the tools to embrace a healthier, more sustainable path to leadership and entrepreneurship.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• Why hustle is powerful, but only in short, strategic bursts
• The hidden costs of burnout and how to spot the warning signs
• The shift from “hustler” to “long-haul leader” and what it really takes
• The 10 core practices every long-haul leader embodies
• How to align your business, relationships, and health for long-term success

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 01:00 - Celebrating the Launch of Chris’ Book
• 02:07 - The Journey to Becoming a Long-Haul Leader
• 05:14 - The Turning Point: Embracing a New Approach
• 08:27 - The Realization: Hustle is Not Sustainable
• 14:28 - The Path to Recovery and Sustainable Success
• 21:29 - Introducing Long-Haul Leadership Principles

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Get Your Copy of The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Sally Hogshead is a branding expert, Wall Street Journal and New York Times bestselling author, and creator of the Fascinate Test. She’s been named #1 Global Brand Guru and is one of the only 189 professional living speakers to be inducted into the Speaker Hall of Fame.

In this episode, Chris and Sally discuss why being different is better than being better, how to identify your unique advantage, and why long-term success comes from leaning into what makes you truly fascinating.

They also dive into the power of relationships, navigating burnout, creating joy in both business and life, and why physical experiences and connections will always win over digital noise.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• Why different is better than better
• Sally’s simple formula for defining brand differentiation
• The importance of focusing on what brings you joy bubbles in your work and life
• How Sally and her family honored her mother’s life with intentionality, joy, and meaning
• How physical experiences, events, and products are becoming more valuable in the AI era
• The role of hobbies, pastimes, and relationships in sustaining energy for the long game

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 05:05 - Different is Better Than Better
• 11:00 - From Copywriter to Branding Authority
• 13:00 - Joy vs. Burnout
• 16:55 - Honoring Relationships and Legacy
• 21:23 - Staying Focused Amidst Distractions
• 22:56 - The Joy and Toil of Writing a Book
• 27:52 - The Power of Physical Experiences
• 32:00 - Playing the Long Game
• 36:00 - Hobbies, Recharging & Relationships

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Connect with Sally on Instagram
• Sally’s Website

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Pat Flynn is NYT bestselling author of Lean Learning, keynote speaker, entrepreneur, podcaster and YouTuber with over 2 million subscribers across his two channels. Through his diverse portfolio of businesses, award-winning podcasts, newsletters, and thriving online communities, Pat reaches and inspires millions of people each month.

In this episode, Chris and Pat talk all things sustainable leadership, finding balance, and how to learn smarter, not harder. They discuss what it truly means to grow, lead and live with purpose, particularly without sacrificing your health or wellbeing.

Pat also opens up about his new book, Lean Learning and reveals the moments that shaped his long-haul leader journey.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• Why “enough” is a crucial question for every business owner and how to define it for yourself
• The hidden dangers of hustle culture and why burnout is a business risk, not a badge of honor
• How Pat overcame public criticism and self-doubt and what helped him bounce back stronger.
• The “Lean Learning” method and why consuming less but applying more is the fastest path to results
• Just-in-time vs. just-in-case learning and why most of us get stuck in the wrong mode

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 03:19 - Reflecting on Podcasting and Personal Growth
• 12:06 - The Impact of Haters and Trolls
• 19:04 - A Life-Changing Listener Story
• 21:25 - A Full Circle Moment
• 23:41 - Mastering Every Moment
• 27:13 - The Importance of White Space
• 29:39 - Lean Learning: The Journey
• 37:44 - The Power of Micro Mastery

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Pick Up a Copy of Pat's Book, Lean Learning
• Smart Passive Income
• Subscribe to the SPI Podcast
• Connect with Pat on Instagram

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Michael Bungay Stanier is the founder of Box of Crayons, a training organization helping organizations with practical coaching skills rooted in curiosity. He's also the author of eight books that have sold more than 2 million copies, including the Coaching Habit and How to Work with Anyone. He's the winner of the Thinkers50 Coaching Award and is focused on helping transformational leaders seek a d find modern change mastery.

In this episode, Chris and Michael discuss the key turning points that shaped Michael's career, from selling millions of copies of his books to defining his personal mission of infecting people with the possibility virus.

They explore what it really means to create impact, how to know when to walk away from a project (even after heavy investment), and Michael's perspective on legacy.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• The importance of making the braver choice in everyday moments
• Recognizing when your work has lost its sense of purpose
• Balancing love for your work with the reality of tasks you simply don’t enjoy
• Why brevity and curation are the ultimate skills for authors, speakers, and creators

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 03:51 - Reflecting on Key Career Moments
• 08:05 - The Coaching Habit and Its Impact
• 14:33 - Launching the Change Signal Podcast
• 17:08 - Realizing the Podcast's Purpose
• 20:41 - Thoughts on Legacy
• 24:08 - The Importance of Open-Mindedness
• 27:09 - Dealing with Burnout and Finding Purpose
• 32:39 - The Truth About Writing Books

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Check Out Michael's Books
• Subscribe to Michael's Podcast, Change Signal
• Connect with Michael on Instagram

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Rory Vaden is the Co-Founder of Brand Builders Group where he teaches people to build and monetize a rock solid reputation™. He is also the New York Times Bestselling Author of Take the Stairs, and Wealthy and Well-Known.

In this episode, Chris and Rory dive deep into what it really means to be purpose-driven in business, why personal brands fail, and how legacy and service are the only sustainable long-term strategies in a noisy, AI-saturated world.

Whether you're a coach, author, executive, or entrepreneur, this is an essential listen for anyone looking to build a personal brand that actually lasts and truly matters.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• The biggest reason most personal brands burn out (and how to prevent it)
• Rory’s framework for identifying your true calling
• How one question changed the trajectory of Lewis Howes’ career
• The false promise of “multiple income streams” early in business
• Why your humanity is your differentiation in an AI-driven world

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 04:19 - Rory's Journey and Brand Builders Group
• 06:44 - The Importance of Purpose Over Profit
• 08:37 - Legacy and Future of Personal Branding
• 17:36 - Challenges and Failures in Personal Branding
• 20:28 - The Lie of Multiple Streams of Income
• 21:13 - Focusing on One Revenue Stream
• 25:37 - The Importance of Service-Centered Branding
• 27:00 - Personal Branding Insights
• 30:50 - Living Like a Long Haul Leader

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Pick Up a Copy of Wealthy and Well-Known
• Connect with Rory on Instagram
• Subscribe to Rory's Podcast, The Influential Personal Brand Podcast

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.

Dorie Clark is a Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, Reinventing You and Stand Out. She's a keynote speaker and teaches executive education at Columbia Business School. She's also been named three times as one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50.

In this episode, Chris and Dorie talk about what it really takes to build a sustainable business over the long-haul. They dive deep into what it means to lead for the long term, how to stay grounded in a noisy world, and why delayed gratification is the ultimate superpower for leaders.

Dorie shares the behind-the-scenes story of how her books Entrepreneurial You and The Long Game were born out of her own questions about income, impact, and integrity.

If you’ve ever struggled with distraction, burnout, or the pressure to move faster than you want to, this episode will give you the perspective shift you didn’t know you needed.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

• Why impact doesn’t always equal income (and what to do about it)
• How to sell with integrity without feeling like a used car salesman
• The truth about thought leadership and how long it really takes to build
• Why leaders are more in control of their time than they think
• What George Michael can teach us about finding your calling

EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:

• 02:11 - Dorie Clark on Long-Term Success
• 04:23 - Building a Sustainable Business
• 07:46 The Importance of Strategic Patience
• 11:01 - Challenges of Modern Leadership
• 20:28 - Balancing Work and Personal Life
• 23:02 - Balancing Priorities in Relationships
• 27:30 - Hobbies and Musical Theater
• 31:51 - Personal Projects and Simplifying Life

RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

• Pre-Order The Long-Haul Leader
• Connect with Chris on Instagram
• Connect with Dorie on Instagram
• Check Out Dorie's Book, The Long Game

SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW:

Be sure to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts (or your favorite podcast player) — it helps more long-haul leaders like you discover the show and join the journey.

Thanks for listening to The Long-Haul Leader podcast. See you next week with more insights to help you lead with purpose, resilience, and impact.