Service is where recovery comes alive.

In this special Service Day episode of the Living Clean Podcast, we sit down with Lady D., Dee M., Branwyn B., Francis, and Mason to talk about what service really means beyond positions, beyond titles, and beyond obligation.

We get into the heart of it: what service has done for us, how it’s kept us clean, and why giving back is one of the most powerful tools we have in recovery.

We talk about the impact of sponsorship, carrying the message, showing up when we don’t feel like it, and how service connects us to something bigger than ourselves.

In Narcotics Anonymous, we often say: “The heart of NA beats when two addicts share their recovery.” Service is how we keep that heart beating.

Happy Service Day.

In this special episode of The Living Clean Podcast, Mason and Francis take a deep dive into one of the most pivotal moments in the history of Narcotics Anonymous literature.

The Fourth World Literature Conference, held in Santa Monica, California in April 1981, was part of the intense and passionate effort to create a book written by addicts, for addicts. The work done at these conferences helped shape what would eventually become the NA Basic Text, a cornerstone of recovery for addicts around the world.

In the first half of the episode, Mason and Francis break down what led up to the conference, what happened during those historic days in Santa Monica, and why the literature movement inside NA was so important to the fellowship’s growth.

In the second half of the episode, we’re joined by Bob S. and Kathy M., two members who were actually present at the conference. They share their personal memories of participating in the literature effort, the atmosphere in the rooms where addicts were shaping recovery literature, and the challenges and excitement of that moment in NA history.

Their stories bring the conference to life and provide insight into a time when the fellowship was still young, passionate, and determined to create literature that carried the message of recovery.

This episode is part history, part oral archive, and part celebration of the addicts who helped build the foundation of NA literature.

If you’re interested in the origins of the Basic Text, the literature conferences, or the early years of NA service, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

In this episode of The Living Clean Podcast, we continue our journey through Chapter 4 of the Living Clean book as we begin exploring the section on “Disabilities.”

We’re joined by a group of special guests who bring real, lived experience to this conversation. Each of them faces different types of disabilities, and together they help us break down the first half of this powerful section.

This episode dives into what it really looks like to navigate recovery while also managing physical, emotional, or cognitive challenges. Our guests share honestly about the obstacles they’ve faced—but more importantly, they share the strength, courage, and perseverance it takes to stay clean and keep moving forward.

This is a conversation about resilience. About not giving up. About finding hope even when life adds extra layers of difficulty.

Because recovery doesn’t require perfect circumstances—it requires willingness, connection, and the courage to keep going.