Tiny divisions, deep revelations! The 12th Parts refer to the zodiac signs within each zodiac sign and have long been used by astrologers in the Hellenistic, Medieval Islamicate, and Indic traditions to glean further insight and nuance from the natal chart. Please join Joli and Aswin as they talk about how they conceptualize the 12th Parts and how they might be delineated. As always, we welcome any thoughts, comments, or feedback you might share! If you enjoy the episode, please leaves us a rating and a review as it helps sustain these conversations. Thank you for tuning in!

Today, we return with our special guest, Saffron Dennis from Divine BayTree, as we look at a mystery chart and delineate it through both a tropical and sidereal lens.

The idea is to showcase how we might use different techniques to parse a natal chart and understand the native's life. Having examined the chart through a tropical lens and using largely Hellenistic techniques, we turn today to a look at the chart using perspectives from Jyotish.

While Aswin does the bulk of the breakdown, Joli does share descriptors/keywords for the nakshatras of the native's Sun, Moon, and Rising. Just these alone are extremely revealing of the native and their story, as Saffron shares with us all by the end of the show.

A slightly longer episode than usual but we hope you enjoy the breakdown and the subsequent reveal by Saffron!

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Welcome to Ep 8! Today we have a special guest, Saffron Dennis from Divine BayTree is joining the show to provide Joli & Aswin with a mystery chart to delineate in real time.

The idea is to showcase how we might use different techniques to parse a natal chart and understand the native's life. Today we will be looking at this chart from a Tropical Hellenistic & Traditional lens. In Round 2 later this month, we will return to this chart and look at it through the lens of Sidereal Jyotish before Saffron finally reveals just who the chart belongs to and how close we get to the actual life through our delineations.

You can find Saffron here-- https://divinebaytree.com/ as well as here--https://www.facebook.com/divinebaytree and here-- https://www.instagram.com/divinebaytree1/

Please input the chart details into the chart generator of your choice and follow along as Joli and Aswin try to pick out significant details. And please share with us your own thoughts and feedback on the chart (without giving it away!) by commenting or tagging us on social media:

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Aswin: https://www.instagram.com/theabverdict/ or https://bsky.app/profile/theabverdict.com

Is Astrology as a practice just divination, or could it be more than that? Aswin begins our conversation with a look into Omenology and a story that speaks to how divination can speak to us in any given moment. And Joli brings in how we balance intuition with pattern recognition, symbolic understanding with the idea of cause-and-effect. What's your take on this topic? Join our conversation and please share in the comments or by tagging us in social media!

And here's the link to the story of the rain-maker that Joli was trying to relay: https://appliedjung.com/rainmaker-dream-of-drought/

And if you're interested in studying with Aswin, please check out the courses he's offering, including his one-year Jyotish course (the price of which will go up in 2026) by checking out: https://www.theabverdict.com/courses

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What are the building blocks of an astrology practice and how do we transition to a part-time or full-time astrology practice? Join Joli and Aswin as they discuss the various ups and downs of getting started in our astrology practices and how we can go on to cultivate our development in the sacred art that is astrology. From simply just getting stuck into reading charts to doing dontation-based readings, writing blog posts on topics that interest you, and volunteering at conferences--Joli and Aswin share their learning experiences. Finally, to see the photo Joli mentions early on, search for "chad le clos michael phelps event photo" on your internet search engine of choice.

Joli and Aswin continue their discussion on client chart prep and what techniques they like to use--and when and why they use what! We talk about consultation charts--what are they and how do we use them? How much detail do we need about the client and the client's life before the session? Is the client supposed to tell us what they need or are astrologer's supposed to divine this? Is there always a pressing need on the client's side? How long should sessions be? Tune in to hear thoughts and conversation on these questions and more.

What are the steps for preparing for a client session? What is the process leading up to the booking in of a client consultation and then preparing for it? Join Joli and Aswin as they discuss the different ways they approach this part of an astrologer's practice and their reasoning behind their choices. This is the first half of a conversation around client/chart prep that leads into a discussion on technical prep that will be featured in Episode 5.

What does cross-cultural astrology mean? And why might delving into this be of value or benefit to any astrologer? What do we mean when we talk about traditions versus schools of astrology? Join Joli and Aswin as they discuss the ins and outs of different perspectives and how exploring other traditions can open up our astrological practices and our understanding of the client sitting in front of us, as well as of the world at large.