Episodes

  • Ep #15: Why Webflow is the best website builder for marketers (Framer sucks)
    Oct 10 2025

    In this episode of The Factory Floor, Nick, Corey, and Zach compare website building platforms for SaaS marketing sites, focusing on Webflow, Framer, and custom-coded solutions.

    They highlight Webflow’s strengths in scalability, SEO, and ease of updates, making it ideal for marketing teams. Framer is praised for design flexibility but criticized for poor scalability and limited CMS.

    Custom-coded sites offer full control but are costly and hard to maintain. WordPress and Wix are deemed unsuitable for SaaS needs. The hosts recommend Webflow as the most balanced, efficient choice for business websites.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth, marketing, and tech trends. Episodes are released on Twitter one day early, @coreyhainesco

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

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    40 mins
  • Ep #14: Comparing marketing for bootstrapped companies vs. VC backed companies
    Sep 29 2025

    In this episode of Factory Floor, hosts Nick Loudon, Corey Haines, and Zach Stevens discuss the distinct marketing approaches employed by bootstrapped and venture capital (VC)-backed startups. The conversation explores how these two types of businesses, often operating in similar industries, adopt contrasting strategies based on their funding models. Corey, the resident marketing expert, sets the stage by highlighting the differences in marketing intensity and investment timing, noting that bootstrapped startups prioritize early marketing to drive revenue, while VC-backed companies often delay marketing efforts until achieving product-market fit.

    The discussion delves into why early-stage bootstrapped startups and mid-to-late-stage VC-backed companies are more likely to seek marketing support, examining factors like financial runway, investor pressure, and the need for rapid growth. The hosts analyze the pitfalls of "maintenance marketing" for bootstrapped companies, the risks of over-relying on sales or freemium models for VC-backed startups, and the importance of diversifying marketing channels at the right time. They also touch on the trade-offs between bootstrapping and VC funding, including failure rates, revenue expectations, and the role of product type in determining the funding path.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth, marketing, and tech trends. Episodes are released on Twitter one day early, @coreyhainesco

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

    Don't fall behind. Subscribe. Like. Drop a comment. Or not. The ball is in your court.

    You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

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    36 mins
  • Ep #13: Why “we’re focusing on sales” isn’t a good reason to stop doing marketing
    Sep 26 2025

    On this episode of the Factory Floor, we debunk "focusing on sales." We discuss why a focus on sales shouldn't halt marketing, and how the two fuel growth together, as two sides of the same coin.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Episodes are released on Twitter one day early, @coreyhainesco

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

    Don't fall behind. Subscribe. Like. Drop a comment. Or not. The ball is in your court.

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    33 mins
  • Ep #12: The things preventing you from being a better founder (pull from bad fit criteria)
    Sep 22 2025

    For this episode of the Factory Floor Podcast, we discussed what its like working with clients, and what sets the best SaaS founders we know apart. Topics include: the advantages of working async (less meetings, more shipping), what its like running a marketing agency, and how founders can 10x their ARR.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth.

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

    Don't fall behind. Subscribe. Like. Drop a comment. Or not. The ball is in your court.

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    44 mins
  • Ep #11: Creative Firm Pricing Models | What Model is Best?
    Sep 19 2025

    Corey, Zach, and Nick discuss the pros and cons of multiple pricing models for creative agencies.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth.

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

    Don't fall behind. Subscribe. Like. Drop a comment. Or not. The ball is in your court.

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    38 mins
  • Ep #10: How to Optimize Your Site for AI Visitors | LLM SEO
    Sep 15 2025

    More and more traffic is coming from LLMs. If you want to get a piece of the pie, you'll have to adapt.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth.

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

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    29 mins
  • Ep #9: Creative Direction is the last moat
    Sep 12 2025

    The creative director is the most underrated hire right now. Zach, Corey and Nick discuss.

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth.

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

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    31 mins
  • Ep #8: Vibe marketing
    Sep 8 2025

    Vibe marketing in 2025. Are you utilizing the tools available?

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    The Factory Floor is hosted by the three co-founders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth.

    Every other week Corey, Zach, and Nick break down what’s working right now in SaaS marketing, share real-world lessons from the field, and give you the strategies you need to outpace the competition.

    Don't fall behind. Subscribe. Like. Drop a comment. Or not. The ball is in your court.

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    50 mins