• What If 'Taking It Literally' Isn't Taking It Seriously?
    Aug 22 2025

    In this episode, hosts Nate and Tony, along with guest Michael, delve into the intricate topic of biblical literalism. The discussion kicks off with a clarification of what biblical literalism entails: the belief that the Bible should be read as entirely true, taken at face value without metaphorical interpretation. They explore historical, scientific, and literary implications of this belief, including potential contradictions within the Bible itself, such as those found between Genesis 1 and 2. Questions are raised about the feasibility and risks of a strictly literal approach, considering the varied genres within the Bible—poetry, history, prophecy, and letters. The hosts emphasize the importance of context and historical setting in understanding scripture. Reflecting on their own journeys, Nate, Tony, and Michael illustrate how their views on biblical literalism have evolved, highlighting the necessity of a nuanced reading to truly grasp the depth and intended messages of the Bible. They provide resources for further study, such as the Bible Project and 'How to Read the Bible for All It's Worth.' The episode concludes with an encouragement to love God with all one's heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to approach biblical study as both a personal and communal journey.


    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:36 Defining Biblical Literalism

    02:29 Different Perspectives on Biblical Literalism

    04:56 Challenges and Nuances of Literal Interpretation

    09:22 Literalism vs. Contextual Understanding

    17:30 Contradictions and Complexities in the Bible

    21:22 The Importance of Context in Interpretation

    22:44 Misinterpretation of Scripture

    23:51 Context in Biblical Interpretation

    25:58 Literalism and Its Pitfalls

    30:37 Nuanced Approaches to Scripture

    36:04 Personal Journeys in Understanding the Bible

    42:26 Encouragement for Bible Study

    48:30 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    51 mins
  • When Is It Right to Fight Back?
    Aug 8 2025

    In this episode, hosts Nate and Tony are joined by guest Canaan Evans to continue a conversation on Christian non-violence, specifically addressing complex ethical dilemmas. They discuss the interpretation of Jesus' teaching on turning the other cheek and resisting evil with kindness. The conversation includes real-life scenarios such as bullying, domestic disputes, and extreme historical situations like the actions of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Corrie ten Boom during WWII. They explore the challenges of adhering to Christian principles in various forms of conflict and the role of wisdom, emotional intelligence, and the Holy Spirit in making these difficult decisions.

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    56 mins
  • Does "Turning the Other Cheek" Mean Being a Doormat?
    Jul 25 2025

    In this episode, hosts Nate and Tony, along with their guest Canaan Evans, explore the concept of 'killing with kindness' and discuss conflict resolution strategies from a Christian perspective. The conversation delves into the complexities of handling various types of conflicts—from familial disputes to societal tensions while maintaining a non-violent and wise approach. They reference Jesus' teachings from the Sermon on the Mount, contextualizing historical and cultural understandings of responses like 'turning the other cheek' and going the 'extra mile.' The episode also poses challenging questions about the limits of non-violent resistance and the point at which it might be necessary to defend oneself or others, hinting at a potential follow-up discussion.

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    57 mins
  • Why Are So Many Bible 'Heroes' Actually the Villains?
    Jul 11 2025

    In this episode, Nate, Tony and guest Michael Schlender discuss the concept of biblical heroes, questioning traditional Sunday school portrayals of various characters from the Bible. They highlight the flawed nature of many figures such as Samson, David, Solomon, and Gideon, reflecting on how their understanding of these characters has evolved. The conversation also touches on lesser-known figures like Ananias and Barnabas, who played crucial roles in the early Christian church. The session underscores the importance of discerning genuine models of faith and trust in God by comparing the lives of Joseph and Jesus, both seen as embodiments of true humanity through their unwavering trust in Yahweh.

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    57 mins
  • What Is a Christian, Anyway?
    Jun 27 2025

    In episode three, hosts Tony and Nate are joined by Michael Schlender to discuss what it means to be a Christian in modern times. They examine the evolution of the term 'Christian' and contrast it with its origins and historical context. The conversation delves into the changes in cultural perception, the significance of terms like 'disciple,' and the statistics highlighting the disparity between self-identifying Christians and those actively following Jesus' teachings. The episode concludes with reflections on the necessity of balancing belief, personal experience, and actionable behavior in faith, and the ongoing challenge of finding and living out a healthy expression of Christianity.

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    1 hr
  • Can Suffering Be a Good Thing?
    Jun 13 2025

    In this episode, Nate and Tony embark on a discussion about dealing with suffering and hardship. They explore the universal question of how to handle life's difficult moments without falling apart. Tony shares personal anecdotes about his tendency to isolate himself during tough times and how recognizing and addressing his reflexive negative responses has been crucial. Nate emphasizes the importance of community and personal reflection in coping with hard times. Both hosts advocate for building emotional intelligence and maintaining strong support networks. They touch on their faith as Christians and how it informs their approach to suffering. The episode concludes with a teaser for the next discussion on the topic of defining what it means to be a Christian.

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    55 mins
  • Why Is It So Hard to Change?
    May 30 2025

    In this episode, hosts Nate and Tony delve into the topic of why change is so difficult, coining the term 'the discipline of hard things.' They discuss the significance of discipline, particularly from a Christian perspective, and reflect on how consistent physical fitness has played a role in their personal development. Nate highlights insights from Dallas Willard's teachings on discipline, while both share their experiences with fitness routines and the challenges of maintaining them. They also explore the concept of willpower as a muscle that can be strengthened through regular practice, and how this can have a ripple effect on other areas of life. The conversation includes practical tips on avoiding burnout, the importance of community and accountability, and the incremental steps one can take to achieve long-term success and self-improvement.

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    55 mins