Episodes

  • Mason Fowler Chasing the Light-Heavy Crown + Deron Winn vs Pat Downey Is BACK!
    Apr 29 2025

    The heated match is back on, Deron Winn vs Pat Downey! On Episode 18 of The DMS Podcast, Deron breaks down what this match means for his career and the new direction that could follow.


    Meanwhile, Mason Fowler has his eyes on becoming the best light-heavyweight grappler in the world. He dives into his relentless training, competition mindset, and what it takes to stay at the top of Brazilian jiu jitsu.


    This episode is a must-watch for anyone into jiu jitsu, MMA, or combat sports. Get an inside look at the grind, the rivalries, and the sacrifices that define these athletes. Grab your seat, it all goes down in The DMS Podcast.


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    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

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    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow


    Chapters:

    0:00 Deron Winn Vs Pat Downey is on again

    2:09 Deron helped Mason's style

    5:00 Deron has never competed in BJJ

    6:34 Pat Downey match preview

    8:36 Strategy going into the match

    10:39 Nicky Rod Vs Kaynan Duarte recap

    12:02 Mason's Comeback at 205 lbs

    14:55 Why 205 lbs Is the Sweet Spot

    18:47 Diet’s Impact on Recovery

    20:35 Challenges of Bigger Opponents

    24:19 Strict Diet, No Cheat Meals

    26:04 From Sugary Food to Healthy Eating

    29:34 Training Changed Cravings

    31:11 Weight Management for Active Lives

    34:39 Weight Cuts and Eating Disorders

    36:30 Dangers of Weight Cycling

    40:11 Food Quality Over Calories

    42:12 Wrestling Weight Cuts & Macros

    45:37 Seasoning Makes Meals Better

    47:27 Flavors, Friends, and Fights

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    50 mins
  • What REALLY Happens on TUF: Training, Struggles, and Behind-the-Scenes Drama || The DMS Ep. 17
    Mar 17 2025

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    This episode of The DMS Podcast is packed with wild stories, inside scoops, and plenty of laughs as Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza dive into the craziness of The Ultimate Fighter. It’s episode 17, and Mason drops some incredible behind-the-scenes takes as a coach on Team Sonnen—even though he’s trained under Daniel Cormier for years. How did the DC loyalist end up in enemy territory? You’ll have to hear it to believe it!


    From intense training sessions to hilarious moments in the house, this episode gives you the full picture of life on TUF. Mason shares what it’s like coaching fighters in such a high-pressure environment while Deron and Andrew chime in with their own unique perspectives on the struggles, rivalries, and bonding that happen off-camera.


    The team keeps it lighthearted but real, giving fans of MMA, Brazilian jiu jitsu, and wrestling a rare look at what truly makes fighters tick. Whether you’re here for the training tips, the behind-the-scenes drama, or just good vibes with three guys who live and breathe combat sports, this is one you don’t want to miss!


    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    31 mins
  • Unleashing Oban Elliott: The Fight Prep Behind His UFC KO Of The Night || The DMS Ep. 16
    Mar 10 2025

    In episode 16 of The DMS Podcast, hosts Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza dive deep with UFC fighter Oban Elliott. Discover the fight prep secrets behind his incredible "KO of the Night" win as Oban shares his training routines, insights on mental toughness, and what it takes to succeed in the Octagon. Whether you’re a seasoned MMA or BJJ enthusiast, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to elevate their fight game and find inspiration in Oban's journey. Tune in and unleash your potential!

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    Follow Oban on IG: https://www.instagram.com/obanelliott/


    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    Chapters:

    0:00 Oban Elliott's Knockout at Madison Square Garden – The Dream Comes True!

    2:12 Overcoming Training Challenges with a Team – Secrets to Success!

    6:34 Training with MMA Elite in Germany – Inside a Champion's Camp!

    8:42 Considering a Move to Germany – Is It Time for a Change?

    12:33 Innovative Training Strategies – Are Specialized Coaches the Future?

    14:46 Inside UFD Gym – Elite Facilities for Fighters Revealed!

    18:31 Sparring with UFC Stars – What It's Like to Train with the Best!

    20:18 Travel Routines and Time Zone Challenges – How Fighters Adapt!

    24:06 Winning vs. Impressing – What Really Matters in Fighting?

    25:51 Judge Misinterpretations – The Real Impact on Fighter Contracts!

    29:18 Controversial Fight Judging – Innovations That Could Change Everything!

    31:12 Visible Scoring in Fights – Make Each Match More Exciting!

    35:03 Marketing Champions in MMA – Why Big Names Matter!

    37:06 Overtraining and Fatigue – Are Fighters Pushing Too Hard?

    40:47 Takedown Challenge – Who Would Win: Oban or Mason?

    42:31 Team Dynamics Before the Fight – Building Excitement Together!

    46:15 Achieving UFC Dreams – Oban's Life-Changing Moment!

    48:03 Future Aspirations in UFC – The Journey is Just Starting!

    51:37 Reflecting on Success – How to Stay Hungry for More Wins!

    53:18 Mental Preparation for Fight Night – Staying Calm Under Pressure!

    57:10 Managing Fight Anxiety – Techniques That Work!

    59:06 Oban's Mindset During Fights – Focus on the Opponent!

    1:02:27 Transforming Nerves into Energy – Embracing the Moment!

    1:04:00 Performing in High Pressure – Unleashing the Fighter Within!



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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • How Your Weight Is Holding Back Your Jiu Jitsu And How to Fix It || The DMS Ep. 15
    Jan 6 2025

    Welcome to Episode 15 of The DMS Podcast, hosted by Deron Winn, Mason Fowler, and Andrew Zaragoza! In this episode, we dive into how your weight might be holding back your Brazilian jiu-jitsu game and share actionable tips to fix it. Whether you're into jiu-jitsu, fitness, wrestling, or MMA, this conversation is packed with insights to help you improve your performance and reach your goals. Hit play, drop a comment, and let us know your thoughts! Follow Deron Winn 🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/ 🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn Follow Mason Fowler 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj 🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma 🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler Follow Andrew Zaragoza 🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz 🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/ 🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    53 mins
  • How Social Media is Destroying (and Saving) Combat Sports - The DMS Ep. 14
    Dec 30 2024

    In episode 14, Mason Fowler, Deron Winn and Andrew Zaragoza talk about Deron's match against former teammate Pat Downey, internet drama in the grappling community and review some UFC Fights.


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    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    41 mins
  • The Future of BJJ in the UFC: Exclusive Contracts Good For Top Grapplers? || The DMS Ep. 13
    Dec 10 2024

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    Are exclusive UFC contracts a game-changer for Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu athletes? In this episode 13 of The DMS Podcast, Mason Fowler, Deron Winn and Andrew Zaragoza explore how these deals could impact top grapplers transitioning into the UFC. From better pay and marketing opportunities to the potential challenges of exclusivity, we break down what this means for the future of BJJ.


    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    46 mins
  • Your Fight Weekend Guide: Jone Jones vs Stipe Miocic, Mike Tyson, Jake Paul || The DMS Ep. 12
    Nov 14 2024

    In Episode 12 of The DMS, Mason Fowler and Andrew Zaragoza break down one of the most anticipated fight weekends ever, Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic, Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul and more. Use this as you guide to sounding like you know what you are talking about this weekend!


    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    40 mins
  • Beat the Turtle Position and Take the Back in Jiu Jitsu – Here’s How! || The DMS Ep. 11
    Oct 28 2024

    In episode 11 of The DMS, Andrew Zaragoza asks Mason Fowler how to get passed the turtle position, how to utilize turtle if you are on the bottom, and what are the most important concepts when taking the back.


    Follow Deron Winn

    🤼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deron_winn/

    🤼 Twitter/X: https://x.com/deronwinn


    Follow Mason Fowler

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/masonfowlerbjj

    🥋 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@masonfowlermma

    🥋 Instructionals and More: https://linktr.ee/masonfowler


    Follow Andrew Zaragoza

    🥋 Podcast Courses and Free Guides: https://pursuepodcasting.com/iamandrewz

    🥋 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz/

    🥋 Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iamandrewz


    Subscribe to The DMS on Audio Platforms

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-dms-the-deron-and-mason-show/id1763723687

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0lOkEuiBqLn4DW8NdbSZXE


    #GrapplingPodcast #TheDMS #TheDeronandMasonShow

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    49 mins