Most people blame doctors or insurance companies for the cost of healthcare.

But that’s not where most of the money actually goes.

In this episode, I break down the part of the healthcare system almost nobody talks about… hospitals.

Hospital care now makes up about a third of all healthcare spending in the United States. And over the past two decades, hospital prices have grown far faster than almost anything else in the economy.

So what’s really driving these costs?

We talk about price transparency, nonprofit hospital systems, government programs that quietly funnel billions into hospitals, and why the system keeps getting bigger and more expensive.

Once you see how the money actually moves through healthcare… you start to understand why costs keep rising.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why hospital prices have risen dramatically compared to other medical care
• The surprising reason many hospitals still hide their prices
• How certain healthcare programs quietly shift billions into hospital systems

Learn more about Dr. Marion Mass:

• https://free2care.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/report.pdf
• https://www.bucksindependence.com/author/marion-mass/

Chapters:

00:02 – Where the Money Is in Healthcare

00:10 – Why Hospital Costs Are Growing So Fast

02:34 – The Problem With Price Transparency

04:07 – Why Hospitals Resist Showing Prices

06:43 – The Truth About Nonprofit Hospitals

09:34 – Inside Hospital Executive Pay

12:42 – Government Programs Funding Hospitals

14:55 – How Hospital Consolidation Happens

18:00 – Why Hospitals Buy Physician Practices

21:27 – The 340B Drug Program Explained

27:34 – How Payment Systems Favor Hospitals

33:31 – Who Actually Represents Physicians and Patients

38:41 – Why Hospital Care Costs So Much More

43:48 – How Hospital Systems Became So Powerful

I see this every day… people think they have “good” health insurance.

But then something happens.

A bill shows up. A claim gets denied. Or worse… you realize you can’t even afford the plan anymore.

And no one explains why.

In this episode, I break down what’s really going on behind the scenes—and why so many people feel stuck, frustrated, and confused.

This isn’t about selling you anything. It’s about helping you see the system clearly… so you can start asking better questions.

Because once you see it… you can’t unsee it.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why your “covered” care may not actually be covered when it matters most
• The hidden ways you’re paying for insurance… even when you think you’re not
• A different way to think about healthcare that most people never consider

Connect With Talia Berkefeld: taliangmteam@gmail.com

Imagine paying $30,000 a year for something you barely use.

That’s how health insurance works for many families in America.

You pay your premiums.

You pay your deductible.

And when you finally need help… you enter a confusing system of approvals, networks, and denied claims.

In this episode, I break down how the health insurance system actually works behind the scenes.

We talk about the difference between fully insured and self-funded plans, why employers struggle with healthcare costs, and how the Affordable Care Act changed the entire insurance landscape.

Most people think they understand their health insurance.

But the truth is… they’re missing the most important parts of the system.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

- Why many families pay thousands before insurance pays anything
- The confusing difference between self-funded and fully insured plans
- How major healthcare laws quietly reshaped the insurance industry

Connect With Talia Berkefeld: taliangmteam@gmail.com

Chapters:
00:01 – The $30,000 Health Insurance Problem
00:21 – Why Health Insurance Feels So Confusing
01:46 – Fully Insured vs Self-Funded Plans
03:06 – Who Actually Pays Your Medical Bills
04:18 – Why Employer Health Plans Keep Getting More Expensive
06:38 – The Role of Insurance Brokers
09:11 – How the Affordable Care Act Changed Insurance
12:23 – The Consolidation of the Healthcare Industry
14:17 – The 10 Essential Benefits Explained
16:12 – Why Insurance Covers the Wrong Things
17:10 – The Truth About High Deductible Plans and HSAs
21:33 – How Hospitals Write Off Medical Bills

In the 1960s, people paid their doctors in cash. It was simple. It was cheap. Then everything changed.

We were told insurance would protect us. Just pay one price and everything is covered.

But is it?

I’ve seen families pay $30,000 a year before insurance even kicks in. I’ve seen an $8,000 bill for a 15-minute procedure. I’ve seen a $5,000 bag of saline that cost the hospital a few dollars.

And here’s the part no one wants to admit: many doctors are just as frustrated as you are.

So what if we’ve been thinking about health care the wrong way?

What if paying directly could actually cost less… and feel more human?

In this episode, I pull back the curtain on what’s really happening inside the system—and why more people are walking away from traditional insurance.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

- Why higher medical prices often mean worse care
- The hidden reason your insurance bill keeps going up
- How a different model is quietly helping families avoid medical bankruptcy

If you feel stuck… confused… or tired of surprise bills and denied claims—this episode will change how you see health care.

Listen now. Then decide if the system deserves your trust.

Connect with our guest Andy Schoonover: andy@joincrowdhealth.com

Chapters:
00:00 – How Health Insurance Changed Everything
00:59 – Why Costs Exploded
02:22 – An Alternative to Insurance
03:41 – The $8,000 Ear Surgery
06:19 – Paying Cash vs Insurance
11:02 – How Community Funding Works
13:24 – Why Doctors Hate the System
20:11 – The $250 Heart Test
29:08 – Radical Transparency
34:05 – The $5,000 Saline Bag
46:20 – Growth, Diabetes, and the Future
53:39 – The Biggest Challenges

Most people think the biggest problem in healthcare is cost.

I don’t believe that.

From what I’ve seen inside the system, the real issue is something much deeper—and it’s the reason so many people delay care, get surprise bills, or feel completely lost trying to get help.

The system was supposed to make healthcare easier.

Instead, it created layers of rules, vendors, billing steps, and confusion that most people never see… until they’re the patient.

In this episode, I walk through what’s actually happening behind the scenes—why doctors struggle to get paid, why patients struggle to access care, and why the system often works against the very people it’s meant to help.

Once you see how it really works, it’s hard to unsee.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why the healthcare system turned into a 50-step process just to get care
• The surprising reason insurance can sometimes cost more than paying cash
• The hidden layer of the system most patients never realize exists

If you’ve ever wondered why healthcare feels so complicated… this conversation will change how you see it.

Chapters:

02:02 – The Real Problem With Healthcare Access

03:37 – Why Deductibles Became a Barrier to Care

06:13 – The Hidden Cost of Getting Doctors Paid

08:15 – Discovering the True Price of Medical Procedures

12:06 – Why Transparency Is Missing in Healthcare

16:10 – The Problem With Drug Pricing and Hidden Rebates

24:24 – Why Healthcare Became So Complicated

27:26 – The Power of Having a Guide Through the System

36:34 – How the Platform and Model Started

40:12 – Bringing Both Sides of Healthcare Together

45:12 – The Hardest Part of Expanding Access to Care

52:14 – Why Hospitals Aren’t Always the Best Place for Treatment

We spend more on healthcare than any country on earth.

Five point three trillion dollars. About $15,000 per person.

So why are we living shorter lives than other wealthy nations?

In this episode, I break down what’s really happening inside the U.S. healthcare system. I show you where the money is actually going. And I challenge the biggest belief most people still hold about insurance.

Here’s the hard truth: the system is not built the way you think it is.

We’ve added layers of middlemen. We’ve made prices impossible to see. And we’ve confused coverage with value.

But once you see what’s really happening… you can’t unsee it.

This episode is about taking back control.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why spending more on healthcare does not mean getting better care
• The hidden incentive that quietly pushes insurance costs higher every year
• How cash prices for common procedures expose a flaw in the entire system

If you’ve ever felt frustrated by rising premiums, high deductibles, or surprise bills… this episode will change how you think about healthcare forever.

Listen now and see the system differently.

Chapters

00:00 – The $5.3 Trillion Snapshot

01:00 – How Healthcare Took Over the Economy

02:00 – The Explosion of Middlemen

03:00 – Deductibles, Copays, and Hidden Costs

04:00 – Are We Getting Good Value?

05:00 – Where the Money Really Goes

06:00 – Hospital Consolidation and Pricing Power

07:00 – The Insurance Incentive Problem

08:00 – Are Doctors Really Overpaid?

10:00 – What Cosmetic Surgery Reveals

12:00 – Who Insurance Really Works For

14:00 – LASIK and the Power of Cash Pricing

16:00 – The Surgery Center Model

17:00 – Why Insurance Inflates Costs

21:00 – The Real Solutions Begin

23:00 – Expanding Health Savings Accounts

24:00 – The Fight for Price Transparency

Last year, we spent $800 billion on prescription drugs.

That’s the most in the world.

And we pay almost three times what other countries pay for the exact same medications.

If we just paid the average price other countries pay, we would have saved over $500 billion.

So what’s going on?

In this episode, I expose the dirty secret behind American drug pricing. We break down how middlemen distort prices, why there are thousands of different prices for the same drug, and what one major bill could do to finally fix it.

This is not about politics. It’s about patients. It’s about survival for local pharmacies. And it’s about stopping a system that makes no sense.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

- Why the same drug can have 2,000+ different prices in one federal program
- How a small-town pharmacy was reimbursed $1.92 while another got $89 for the same medication
- The legislation that could remove price manipulation and force real transparency

If you care about drug costs, independent pharmacies, or keeping control of your healthcare dollars… this episode matters.

Listen now. Then call your representative.

Connect with our guests
Brandi Chane - https://x.com/BrandiChane
Greg Reybold - https://x.com/Greg_Reybold


Chapters:
00:00 – The $800 Billion Drug Pricing Secret
00:44 – Why PBM Reform Is Critical
01:55 – Reimbursement Reform Explained
03:34 – The Pharmacists Fight Back Act
05:07 – Why Drug Pricing Reform Is So Hard
08:59 – What Just Passed at the Federal Level
10:29 – The Georgia Pricing Shock
12:35 – 2,200 Different Prices for the Same Drug
14:33 – Returning Rebates to Patients
16:19 – Why This Bill Changes Everything
19:25 – Why Middlemen Drive Up Costs
20:32 – Call Your Representatives
22:18 – Will the Bill Pass?
23:35 – Why Phone Calls Matter
26:24 – The Vertical Integration Problem
27:19 – Why America Funds Global Pharma Profits
28:56 – A Challenge to Big Pharma
32:58 – State-Level Reform Success
35:28 – The Vertical Integration Backlash
36:30 – What Happened to Walgreens
40:18 – How Formularies Changed the Game
41:31 – Why Lawmakers Need to Hear From You
44:04 – The Final Call to Action