Thanksgiving stories, Wicked Part Two, and why The Wizard of Oz still hits in 2025 — we’re covering it all on this episode of Raised By Her. 💚🦃✨
This week, Ro Nita and Donnica open with a cozy (and hilarious) look at Black family Thanksgiving traditions: fried vs. smoked turkey, mac & cheese rules (Velveeta is banned 😅), how grandmothers cooked everyone’s favorite dish, and the emotional weight of hosting. They also talk honestly about navigating holidays after loss and preparing for “that one relative” who brings chaos every year.
Then we dive into a rich, emotional breakdown of Wicked Part Two, The Wizard of Oz, friendship, identity, and “otherness.” Ro Nita shares memories of watching The Wizard of Oz as a child on a black-and-white TV, while Donnica explores why the Wicked universe still resonates: the politics of Oz, how fear is used for control, and what it means to stand in your truth when misunderstood.
We also unpack:
- Why Thanksgiving can be beautiful and hard when you’re grieving
- How to set boundaries and protect your peace
- What Oz represents (the “perfect place” vs. joy in the journey)
- How adulthood can still make room for play and creativity
- Why so many women see themselves in Elphaba and Glinda
If you’ve ever felt like the “different one,” navigated shifting friendships, or tried to hold both gratitude and grief this season, this episode is for you. 💛
⏱ Timestamps:
0:00 – Welcome back & Thanksgiving hosting check-in
0:35 – Our favorite Thanksgiving dishes (and mac & cheese crimes 😂)
3:10 – The wildest Thanksgiving recipes we’ve heard
4:20 – Grandma’s stuffing, oyster dressing & big family traditions
5:00 – Kentucky trips, hunting season & childhood memories
6:30 – Hosting out of love vs obligation
7:10 – Beautiful dishes, no dishwasher & Black women making holidays happen
8:10 – Holidays, grief & handling stress
8:40 – How to deal with that relative at Thanksgiving
9:15 – A hilarious text strategy to avoid being asked for money
10:40 – Happy Thanksgiving & well wishes
10:47 – Our Wicked Part Two movie date: first reactions
11:20 – Why we still love the original Wizard of Oz
12:00 – Why this story keeps getting retold (Oz, The Wiz, Wicked)
13:30 – Professors, Oz, and what keeps this story timeless
16:00 – Wicked, friendship & how relationships evolve
17:30 – “Otherness,” confidence & accepting who you are
20:10 – Villain narratives, public perception & truth
22:20 – Fear, activism & why some people can’t “stay and fight”
24:10 – Real-life story: betrayal, apology & taking the higher road
27:20 – Vibrating higher vs staying stuck in hurt
28:01 – Why Wicked makes grown women cry in the theater
29:05 – Is there really a “place of happiness”… or is it the journey?
30:15 – Lion, Scarecrow, Tin Man or Dorothy – who are you right now?
31:00 – Using Oz as a metaphor for college, goals & adulthood
33:00 – Why this story still works in classrooms & culture
35:02 – Movie theaters, streaming life & “no place like home”
35:45 – The Wiz, soundtracks, and holiday music in the house
36:33 – What Oz represents to us now
37:06 – Reimagining adulthood so play still exists
38:16 – Are you still playing as an adult?
39:18 – Full-circle mother–daughter moment & closing reflections
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