Was the First Lady’s dress disrespectful… or simply modern fashion? In this episode of Raised By Her, we break down the viral Pastor Jamal Bryant / Karri Turner controversy and what it reveals about church culture, boundaries, and double standards.

We also revisit the long-awaited Oprah Winfrey & Iyanla Vanzant reunion—unpacking the real reason they fell out, what reconciliation requires, and the healing lesson behind: “I couldn’t hear you.”

Plus: we respond to listener feedback from our viral “Black Love” conversation, touch the RHOP/Gizelle Bryant connection, and close with a powerful conversation about MacKenzie Scott’s major giving to HBCUs like Spelman and why it might be time to audit your circle for growth.

In This Episode:

• Listener feedback: “Black Love Only” & what people really meant
• Interracial vs. intercultural relationships
• Oprah vs. Iyanla: why they feuded and how they repaired it
• Communication breakdowns + healing when someone can’t “hear” you
• Boundaries in family dynamics (and why it’s hard)
• Jamal Bryant / Karri Turner: faith, fashion, and church expectations
• RHOP ties: Gizelle Bryant & Jamal’s past
• MacKenzie Scott, HBCUs, and the power of philanthropy
• “Audit your circle” for personal growth
• Podfest plans (yes—Disney bound)

Timestamps:

00:00 Addressing the “Black Love Only” Comments
00:39 Interracial vs. Intercultural Relationships
03:53 Is She the Next Oprah? (The Comparison)
09:53 The Real Reason Oprah & Iyanla Feuded
13:57 “I Couldn't Hear You”: Healing Communication Breakdowns
19:57 “Get Out!” - My Mom Hated How I Set Boundaries
22:02 The Maya Angelou Rule: Not In My House
24:41 Too Sexy for Church? The First Lady Dress Scandal
30:25 The RHOP Connection: Gizelle Bryant & Jamal’s Past
37:31 Why MacKenzie Scott Gave Millions to HBCUs
41:34 Audit Your Circle: Why Diversity Matters
49:50 We’re Going to Podfest! (Disney World Bound)

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