• Psychedelics and Psychoanalysis | Psychoanalysis & You - official APsA podcast
    Apr 23 2025

    Episode 14 Exploring Psychedelic-Assisted Psychoanalysis with Megan Rundel | Psychoanalysis & You | APsA official podcast

    Psychoanalysis & You is the official podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) about psychoanalysis and everyday life, hosted by Dr. Gail Saltz.

    In this insightful episode of 'Psychoanalysis of You,' host Gail Saltz welcomes Megan Rundel, PhD, a psychoanalyst from Oakland, California. Dr. Arundel shares her journey into the world of psychedelic-assisted psychoanalysis, detailing her extensive experience with ketamine, MDMA, and psilocybin. She elaborates on the impact of psychedelics in facilitating deeper psychoanalytic work, helping patients with rigid defenses, and enhancing the therapeutic process. The conversation delves into the neuroscientific basis of psychedelics, the importance of proper training and personal experience for practitioners, and the need for careful patient selection to ensure safe and effective treatment. The dialogue sheds light on the burgeoning field of psychedelic therapy and its potential to revolutionize psychoanalytic practice.

    Guest – Megan Arundel, Ph.D.

    Dr. Arundel is a psychoanalyst practicing in Oakland, California. She is a graduate of, and on the faculty of the Psychoanalytic Institute of Northern California. She has also completed a number of certifications in psychedelic-assisted therapy and has been practicing psychedelic assisted psychoanalysis for five years. Additionally, she has been practicing Zen Buddhism for over 30 years and is a teacher with the Open Source Zen Community.

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    01:07 Megan Rundel's Journey into Psychedelics

    01:18 Psychedelics in Psychoanalysis: Historical Context

    04:51 Ketamine in Psychoanalytic Practice

    06:14 Patient Suitability and Safety Considerations

    17:30 Session Structure and Integration

    19:40 Understanding Psychedelics through Neuroscience

    26:17 Psychoanalytic Paradigms and Expanded States

    42:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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  • Artificial Intelligence and Psychoanalysis with Todd Essig | Psychoanalysis & You | APsA official podcast |
    Mar 26 2025

    Psychoanalysis & You is the official podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) about psychoanalysis and everyday life hosted by Dr. Gail Saltz.Episode 13 – Artificial Intelligence and Psychoanalysis

    Our Guest – Todd Essig, Ph.D.

    In this episode of Psychoanalysis and You, Dr. Gail Saltz speaks with Dr. Todd Essig, a psychoanalyst and AI expert. They discuss the impact of telemedicine on psychoanalysis and the evolving role of AI in mental health care. Dr. Essig explores how psychoanalysts should engage with AI, the concept of techno-subjunctive relationships, and the ethical responsibilities of the psychoanalytic community in the AI revolution. The conversation also addresses the potential benefits and dangers of AI chatbots in therapy and the broader implications for society. Tune in to learn how psychoanalysis can contribute to the development of AI technologies that align with human values and needs.

    Dr. Todd Essig is Faculty and Training and Supervising Psychoanalyst at the William Alanson White Institute, Adjunct Clinical Professor at the NYU Postdoctoral Program in Psychoanalysis and member of the Psychotherapy Action Network (PsiAN) Advisory Board. Widely known as a pioneer in the innovative uses of mental health technologies his current areas of research, writing and teaching include the gains and losses of teletherapies and how emerging technologies, especially AI, change self-experience and intimate relationships. He created and currently co-chairs APsA’s Council on Artificial Intelligence. Previously he co-chaired APsA’s Covid-19 Advisory Team for which he was awarded Distinguished Service awards by APsA and the NY State Psychological Association. For 10 years, until the pandemic hit, he wrote "Managing Mental Wealth" for Forbes. Dr. Essig maintains a private practice in New York where he treats individuals and couples.

    Chapters

    • 00:00 Introduction to Psychoanalysis and You
    • 00:36 Meet Dr. Todd Essig
    • 01:57 Telemedicine in Psychoanalysis
    • 03:02 The Spectrum of Teletherapy Acceptance
    • 04:25 Challenges and Differences in Teletherapy
    • 09:49 Transition to AI in Psychoanalysis
    • 11:24 The Role of Psychoanalysts in the AI Revolution
    • 24:42 Guardrails and Ethical Considerations in AI
    • 30:39 Protecting Psychoanalytic Care in the Age of AI
    • 31:48 AI in Mental Health: A Case Study
    • 32:58 Challenges and Limitations of AI in Psychoanalysis
    • 33:33 Exploring AI's Potential in Dream Analysis
    • 35:22 Ethical and Practical Concerns with AI Chatbots
    • 36:03 The Future of AI in Psychoanalytic Treatment
    • 40:47 Personal and Professional Uses of AI
    • 49:22 The Role of Psychoanalysts in the AI Revolution
    • 51:43 Balancing Short-Term and Long-Term Solutions
    • 54:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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  • Using Psychoanalytic Insights to Shape Public Policy and Treatment for Veterans, with Harold Kudler
    Jan 8 2025
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    Episode 12 - Using Psychoanalytic Insights to Shape Public Policy and Treatment for Veterans, with Harold Kudler

    In this episode of Psychoanalysis and You, Dr. Gail Saltz interviews Dr. Harold Kudler, a distinguished psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, about his extensive experience working with veterans. Dr. Kudler shares insights from his career, including his time at the VA and his psychoanalytic training, and discusses the intersection of psychological trauma and military service. He explains how psychoanalytic principles helped him treat veterans suffering from PTSD and illuminates the complex nature of trauma and moral injury. Additionally, Dr. Kudler addresses the stigma surrounding mental health care in the military and highlights the importance of personalized mental health treatment. The episode concludes with Freudian quickies, where other analysts share their views on psychoanalytic values and the shortest treatments they have provided.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

    00:26 Meet Dr. Harold Kudler

    01:23 Psychoanalytic Training and VA Psychiatry

    05:13 Understanding Psychological Trauma

    11:10 Challenges in Treating Veterans

    18:00 Military Mental Health Policy

    24:53 Psychoanalytic Principles in Public Health

    38:47 Freudian Quickies

    43:16 Conclusion https://apsa.org/podcast #APsApodcast

    Our Guest for Episode 12: Harold Kudler

    Dr. Kudler received his M.D. from Downstate Medical Center, trained in Psychiatry at Yale and is Associate Consulting Professor at Duke and Adjunct Professor at the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences. From 2000 through 2005, he co-chaired the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA’s) Special Committee on PTSD which reports directly to Congress. He has served on the International Society for Traumatic Stress Studies Board of Directors, co-led development of joint VA/Department of Defense Guidelines for the Management of Posttraumatic Stress, and advised Sesame Street’s Talk Listen Connect series for military families.

    Dr. Kudler is immediate Past President of the Psychoanalytic Center of the Carolinas and chairs the Service Members and Veterans Initiative of the American Psychoanalytic Association and the Military and Veterans Committee of the Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry.

    Our Host

    Our Host Dr. Gail Saltz is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry. Dr. Saltz is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the NY Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of medicine, a psychoanalyst with the New York Psychoanalytic Institute.

    Our Podcast

    In this podcast, we explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development.

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  • Psychoanalysis & You Ep. 11 Trauma, Performance Anxiety, and the Healing Power of Music, with Julie Nagel
    Dec 4 2024
    Psychoanalysis & You is an APsA podcast about psychoanalysis and everyday life hosted by Dr. Gail Saltz. We explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development. Our Host Our host, Dr. Gail Saltz, is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry. Explore more episodes here. Our Guest for Episode 11 Julie Jaffee Nagel, Ph.D. is a clinical psychoanalyst who integrates her education in music and psychoanalysis. Curious about her stage fright as a performer, she pursued her education beyond 2 degrees from Juilliard. After earning her MSW, MA (psychology) and Ph.D. in both psychology and social work from the University of Michigan she graduated from the Michigan Psychoanalytic Institute. She treats numerous musicians (and others) for performance anxiety and career choice. Her 3 books integrate music’s value in mental life (Melodies of the MInd, Rougledge), Managing Stage Fright (Oxford University Press), and Career Choices in Music Beyond the Pandemic (Rowman and LIttlefield) which she presented at Juilliard. Dr. Nagel promotes creative outreach beyond the consulting room and concert hall and gives presentations at psychoanalytic institutes, music organizations, and the general public. She Chaired the ApsaA Discussion Group “Psychoanaltic Perspectives on Music” for 14 years, presented her original 2- person fantasy theater piece “A Conversation Between Freud and Mozart” at Steinway Hall in New York (2020), and showed the documentary “For the Left Hand” ( 2023 ) in the historic State Theater in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Awards include Nautlus Book Award, Distinguished Service Award from the National Conference on Keyboard Pegagogy, Ticho Award, Karl Menninger Award (ApsaA), and the Nathan Segel Award from MPI. Her work is endorsed by Joseph Polisi, President Emeritus Juilliard, Arnold Steinhardt, First Violin Guarneri String Quartet, Pianists Leon Fleisher, Pianist and Ruth Slenczynska,, Gary Ingle, CEO Music Teachers National Association (ret). She was interviewed by Harvey Schwartz (Psychoanalysis On and Off the Couch), Gail Saltz (Psychoanalysis and You) and others. Recent presentations include #Me Too; Understanding Oppression, Injustice, and Intolerance Through Music (TAP); Memory Slip: Stage Fright and Performing Musicians (JAPA). Julie Jaffee Nagel is in private practice in Dexter, Michigan, Website: julienagel.net Find 'Psychoanalysis & You' on your favorite podcast platform! https://apsa.org/podcast #APsApodcast

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  • When Does Bias Start? Perspectives of a Child Analyst, with Beverly Stoute
    Nov 13 2024

    Welcome to ‘Psychoanalysis & You,’ the official podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA).

    We explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development.

    Our Host

    Our host, Dr. Gail Saltz, is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry.

    Our Guest for Episode 10: Dr. Beverly Stoute

    Beverly J. Stoute, MD, FABP, DFAPA, DFAACAP, is an innovative, internationally recognized leader and advocate in child, adolescent, and adult psychiatry and psychoanalysis. She has held multiple leadership positions locally and nationally, most recently serving as a Co-Chair of the Holmes Commission on Racial Equality in American Psychoanalysis, formerly on the Board of Directors of the American Psychoanalytic Association, on the faculties of multiple psychoanalytic training programs, and currently in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science as Adjunct Professor at the Emory University School of Medicine, and Adjunct Clinical Professor the Morehouse School of Medicine. She is a prominent speaker, author, scholar, educator, clinician, leadership advisor and organizational consultant who has received multiple awards and honors for her work.

    Dr. Stoute’s significant work is recognized for changing psychoanalytic and developmental perspectives on implicit bias in health care delivery, and diversity in psychoanalytic education, organizations and in the training of mental health professions. Her work as a clinician and educator integrates psychoanalytic approaches in the multimodal treatment of children, adolescents, and adults with anxiety, mood disorders, behavior problems, severe psychiatric illness, neurodivergent learning styles, with adjustment issues in high conflict divorce and complex trauma.

    Dr. Stoute combines psychoanalytic understanding with community advocacy work and forensic work in civil litigation for children, adolescents, and adults with complex trauma and teaches mental health clinicians at all levels on a wide range of topics in private and community settings. Her innovative and award-winning scholarship on the developmental aspects of race implicit bias and diversity awareness is on the cutting edge of expanding psychoanalytic theory, is taught at training programs across the United States and has been translated into German, Spanish and Portuguese. Dr. Stoute maintains a full-time private practice in Atlanta, GA He book, co-edited with Michael Slevin, book, The Trauma of Racism: Lessons from the Therapeutic Encounter, co-edited with Michael Slevin, was released by Routledge in 2023. maintains a full-time private practice in Atlanta, GA.

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  • Does Living Through Difficult Times Impact Our Bodies? Considering a Somatic Perspective, with Jessica Benjamin and Chris Walling
    Oct 23 2024
    Psychoanalysis & You is the official podcast of the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) about psychoanalysis and everyday life hosted by Dr. Gail Saltz. Episode 9 Does Living Through Difficult Times Impact Our Bodies? Considering a Somatic Perspective, with Jessica Benjamin and Chris Walling Show Notes Jessica Benjamin is best known as the author of The Bonds of Love (1988), which brought a feminist intersubjective perspective into the psychoanalytic field, and of “Beyond Doer and Done To: An Intersubjective View of Thirdness” (2004), the basis for her recent book Beyond Doer and done To: Recognition Theory, Intersubjectivity and the Third (2018). This book emphasizes the importance of acknowledgment in therapeutic interaction and in relation to trauma, including collective historical trauma. In addition she is the author of Like Subjects, Love Objects (1995); and Shadow of the Other (1998). She has been one of the leaders in the relational movement in psychoanalysis since its inception. She teaches and supervises at the New York University Postdoctoral Program in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis as well as at the Stephen Mitchell Relational Studies Center of which she is a co-founder. She co-directed and initiated a project for acknowledgment between Israeli and Palestinian mental health professionals during the period 2003-2011. Dr. Chris Walling, PsyD, MBA, FABP is a licensed clinical psychologist, board-certified psychoanalyst, and an active leader in the bio-behavioral sciences. Dr. Walling is Associate Professor in the Department of Research Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies, his clinical interests survey the fields of human sexuality, relational psychoanalysis, somatic psychotherapy, soma-aesthetics, and trauma psychologies. He is a Fellow of the American Board of Psychoanalysis, a Fellow of the International Psychoanalytical Association, and a member of the New Center for Psychoanalysis where he serves as Faculty in the Adult Psychoanalytic Training program and serves as Chair of the Faculty Committee, Dr. Walling also serves on the American Psychoanalytic Association’s Committee on Gender & Sexuality. Dr. Walling is a Clinical Research Fellow at Kinsey Institute for Research on Sex, Gender and Reproduction located at Indiana University Bloomington and serves on their International Advisory Council. Dr. Walling maintains a private practice in Los Angeles, California. Host Dr. Gail Saltz is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books and serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry. About APsA Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development.
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  • Bringing Psychoanalytically Informed Support Into Schools, with Mark Smaller
    Sep 18 2024
    Psychoanalysis & You | APsA official podcast Episode 8 | Bringing Psychoanalytically Informed Support Into Schools, with Mark Smaller Our Guest Mark D. Smaller, Ph.D., is an adult, adolescent, and child psychoanalyst, and founding Co-Director of Forward Edge Services with offices in Saugatuck and Grand Rapids, Michigan. In addition to his private practice he consults to schools and to non and for profit corporations. He is on the Clinical Faculty, Western Michigan University Homer Stryker M.D. School of Medicine, Department of Psychiatry. Dr. Smaller is past president of the American Psychoanalytic Association; former Board member, International Psychoanalytic Association; and Executive Director Emeritus of the Neuropsychoanalysis Foundation in New York, As the former Public Advocacy Department Head of the American Psychoanalytic Association, Dr. Smaller led lobbying efforts in the United States Congress regarding the impact of trauma on children from community violence. Dr. Smaller is Founding Director of the Project Realize Foundation, having created an in-school treatment and research project in Chicago. Project Realize was awarded the 2012 Award for Excellence by the American Association for Child Psychoanalysis, and was featured in the New York Times, January 2010. Currently, Project Realize supports patients and families in west Michigan unable to afford private psychotherapy, and is funded through grants and private donations. Psychoanalysis & You We explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development. Our host Dr. Gail Saltz, is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry. Dr. Saltz is an Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the NY Presbyterian Hospital Weill-Cornell School of medicine, a psychoanalyst with the New York Psychoanalytic Institute. Each episode features engaging discussions on key psychoanalytic concepts, such as transference, defense mechanisms, and the role of the unconscious in everyday life. Whether you’re a psychology student, a mental health professional, or simply curious about your own psyche, our content is designed to enlighten and inspire. Listen to recent episodes for Season 2 of ‘Psychoanalysis & You’ below or connect to our RSS feed for past episodes. #APsApodcast
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  • How Cutting-Edge Neuroscience Informs Psychoanalytic Concepts, with Maggie Zellner
    Sep 4 2024
    Maggie Zellner, Ph.D., L.P., is a neuropsychoanalytic educator and psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City. She is the Executive Director of the Neuropsychoanalysis Foundation in New York, and former Managing Editor of the journal Neuropsychoanalysis. Maggie received her Ph.D. from the Graduate Center of the City University of New York in the Neuropsychology Sub-program at Queens College. She is a founding member of the International Neuropsychoanalysis Society, and a graduate and member of the National Psychological Association for Psychoanalysis (NPAP) in New York. Maggie has taught neuroscience to the psychoanalytically-minded since 2003.
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