Garrett Martell from Two Day Painting joins Jon and Michael to break down how he grew from a $10k credit card and door-knocking to an $8.5M painting company with 60% gross and nearly 25% net profit.

He walks through his six–rep sales team structure, why his best closers come from project management, and the exact sales system they follow in the home. You’ll hear how he uses discounts as a marketing tool, handles price objections without racing to the bottom, and keeps culture strong enough that key reps have stayed for nearly a decade. If you want a real playbook for scaling sales without blowing up margins, this is it.

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Every contractor hits the December wall. But instead of scrambling for last-minute leads, Jon and Michael walk through a smarter strategy: reset, reconnect, and prepare.

This episode covers: what sales reps should (and shouldn’t) do right now, how to build deeper relationships that fuel next year’s pipeline, and how to plan your goals so January starts fast instead of frantic.

If you're serious about growth in 2026, this is the episode to hear.

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Pricing painting projects shouldn’t feel like guesswork. In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. Michael Murray and Jon Bryant break down one of the biggest challenges in the industry: pricing jobs accurately and explaining those numbers clearly to crews and subcontractors.

Fresh off the Nolan Grand Summit, they dig into why production rates outperform square-foot guessing, how to communicate time and expectations in a way everyone understands, how to manage the natural tension between sales and production, and how using real data leads to fair pricing, stronger relationships, and more profitable projects.

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In this episode of the Price. Sell. Paint., podcast, Michael Murray and Jon Bryant break down one of the most underrated parts of sales in a painting business: how you communicate.

If you’ve ever had a lead ghost you, a customer misunderstand a message, or a team member hide behind email instead of picking up the phone, this episode is for you.

Perfect for painting contractors, sales reps, and owners who want to sell more work without creating unnecessary friction with customers.

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AI is everywhere, but what’s actually useful for a painting business? Jon and Michael break down the tools that move the needle today: smarter route planning to cut windshield time, instant before-and-after renders that help close on the spot, CompanyCam AI walkthroughs for cleaner handoffs, and custom GPTs that coach reps and streamline hiring. They dig into using AI to standardize pricing and follow-ups, lower overhead so you can pay crews more, and why proposal quality still wins, especially in commercial. Plus, a reality check on the hype and simple actions owners and sales reps can take this week to sell faster and deliver smoother.

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Sherwin-Williams’ Sue Wadden (Director of Color Marketing, 25+ years) joins Jon to break down the real driver of most paint jobs—COLOR—and how pros can use it to win more work. They cover the latest trends, how to guide hesitant homeowners, and the exact tools you can hand clients before you even step on site.

What you’ll learn
- How to confidently lead the color conversation (and stop avoiding it)
- Trends that matter in 2025: warm neutrals, earth tones, greens, khaki + more
- “Phone-a-friend” resources from Sherwin-Williams you can actually use
- The homeowner decision process: chips, peel-&-sticks, wet samples
- Using apps & matches (Color Expert app, ColorSnap/SureMatch) to reduce callbacks
- Selling value with color guidance (and why it wins more jobs)

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CRMs get thrown around as the “Swiss Army knife” of software but what does a CRM actually mean for painting contractors?

In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon Bryant and Michael Murray break down:

• What a CRM is (and isn’t)
• How painting contractors can use a CRM to track leads, follow-ups, and sales
• Why generic CRMs fail the painting industry
• The story behind the launch of PaintScout CRM, built exclusively for painting contractors

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Jon and Michael sit down with Colin Nolan of Nolan Consulting Group to unpack how painting companies can hire, coach, and keep sales reps who actually close. We cover what to look for in candidates (trophies, mindset, DISC profiles), how to find real customer pain without being pushy, the KPIs that reveal performance (win rate, pricing discipline, pipeline hygiene), and why “always be looking” beats rushed hiring. You’ll hear practical word tracks, coaching frameworks, and a simple self-assessment wheel you can use to level up your sales team fast. Whether you’re at $500K or $5M+, this episode gives you a process to build a consistent, high-closing sales function—not just hope the next rep works out.

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