Garrett Martell from Two Day Painting joins Jon and Michael to break down how he grew from a $10k credit card and door-knocking to an $8.5M painting company with 60% gross and nearly 25% net profit.

He walks through his six–rep sales team structure, why his best closers come from project management, and the exact sales system they follow in the home. You’ll hear how he uses discounts as a marketing tool, handles price objections without racing to the bottom, and keeps culture strong enough that key reps have stayed for nearly a decade. If you want a real playbook for scaling sales without blowing up margins, this is it.

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Every contractor hits the December wall. But instead of scrambling for last-minute leads, Jon and Michael walk through a smarter strategy: reset, reconnect, and prepare.

This episode covers: what sales reps should (and shouldn’t) do right now, how to build deeper relationships that fuel next year’s pipeline, and how to plan your goals so January starts fast instead of frantic.

If you're serious about growth in 2026, this is the episode to hear.

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Pricing painting projects shouldn’t feel like guesswork. In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. Michael Murray and Jon Bryant break down one of the biggest challenges in the industry: pricing jobs accurately and explaining those numbers clearly to crews and subcontractors.

Fresh off the Nolan Grand Summit, they dig into why production rates outperform square-foot guessing, how to communicate time and expectations in a way everyone understands, how to manage the natural tension between sales and production, and how using real data leads to fair pricing, stronger relationships, and more profitable projects.

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