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  • 277: Did Meghan Markle Really Ask for Every Vogue Cover? + Momtok Meltdowns on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

    277: Did Meghan Markle Really Ask for Every Vogue Cover? + Momtok Meltdowns on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
    May 28 2025

    This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.

    • [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA

    • [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?

    • [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy

    • [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch

    • [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen

    • [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera

    • [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard

    • [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories

    • [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next

    • [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings

    • [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked like


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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • 276: Blake Betrays Taylor, Cassie Testifies Against Diddy, and the Mormon Wives are Back

    276: Blake Betrays Taylor, Cassie Testifies Against Diddy, and the Mormon Wives are Back
    May 21 2025

    Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀


    ⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:

    [00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow

    [01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal

    [13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory

    [16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy

    [44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone

    [45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns

    [54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand

    [55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse

    [01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand

    [01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until Friday


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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • 275: Divorce Drama, Family Secrets, and Dad’s Wildest Attorney Tales 🥂

    275: Divorce Drama, Family Secrets, and Dad’s Wildest Attorney Tales 🥂
    May 14 2025

    Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.


    ⏱️ Timestamps


    [00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

    Listener love brings Dad back.

    [02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

    Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

    [04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters

    Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.

    [09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names

    Courts don’t block odd names.

    [10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies

    Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.

    [13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice

    Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.

    [17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts

    Lawyer up for support orders.

    [19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work

    Both spouses must work; skills matter.

    [21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior

    Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.

    [23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls

    Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.

    [27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips

    Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.

    [30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces

    More common, but kids suffer.

    [33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path

    Started law at 30 with three kids.

    [38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams

    Pursue goals at any age.

    [41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups

    Fair prenups share future earnings.

    [44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days

    Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.

    [48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths

    All chose bold careers, not law.

    [50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers

    Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.

    [52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales

    Limo attorney; stolen goods chase.

    [57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost

    Hidden assets don’t pay off.

    [59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status

    Raised valuing love, not pedigree.

    [01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off

    Dad’s 25 followers get love.


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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • Is Taylor Swift Team Justin?

    Is Taylor Swift Team Justin?
    May 14 2025
    58 mins
  • 273: Did Prince William say WTF to Meghan Using her HRH? + Italy Travel Recs ft. Travel Photographer Natalie Obradovich

    273: Did Prince William say WTF to Meghan Using her HRH? + Italy Travel Recs ft. Travel Photographer Natalie Obradovich
    May 7 2025
    While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the Beckham clan. Plus, a Capri travel segment with insider tips closes the show.⏱️ Chapter Timestamps00:00 – Meet Elizabeth 👯‍♀️Chanler is on her honeymoon, so Lauren invites bestie Elizabeth to co-host. They chat Chandler’s gorgeous Prospect Park wedding and kick off a Capri-themed giveaway.07:00 – The Ring Copy Heard Round the Family 💍A listener dilemma: her future sister-in-law copies her exact engagement ring — then drags it on TikTok. The girls are scandalized.11:00 – Meghan Markle Gossip Bombshell ☕An anonymous source shares insider PR tea on Meghan’s fame strategy pre-Harry. Spoiler: it involves a deck of rich men at events.13:00 – Meghan’s HRH Title Scandal 🔥Lauren and Elizabeth dissect Meghan’s latest controversy — using her royal title on a jam gift basket featured in a public podcast.19:00 – Did Meghan Break the Rules? 👑They debate if Meghan’s HRH use was innocent or strategic. Cue a full breakdown of royal branding, commercial promotion, and royal hypocrisy.26:00 – Prince William’s Fury 💢New reports claim William is planning to formally strip Harry and Meghan’s HRH titles when he becomes king. The girls weigh in on whether it’s deserved.30:00 – Security Drama & Harry’s Court Loss 🔐Prince Harry loses a UK court appeal over taxpayer-funded protection. Lauren and Elizabeth discuss whether the royal family is putting him in danger.37:00 – Walton Goggins & Amy Lou Wood 💔The two get into the juicy behind-the-scenes fallout between White Lotus stars Walton and Amy. From Instagram clues to awkward interviews, they speculate on what went down.42:00 – Jordan Hudson’s PR Reign Over Belichick 🧠💅Is Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend tanking his career? The answer is possibly yes — and the girls go in hard on the weird dynamic.47:00 – The Beckhams Are Feuding 🥊David Beckham turns 50 — and Brooklyn + Nicola skip the bash. What’s going on between the Beckhams and Nicola Peltz? And who is Romeo’s new (and recycled?) girlfriend?53:00 – ✨ Bonus Segment: Amalfi Coast & Capri Travel GuideLauren is joined by photographer and Capri expert Natalie Obradovich for luxury recs, travel mistakes to avoid, where to stay, shop, and beach club like a local.We’re giving away a designer raffia bag of your choice (up to $3,000 in value!) to one lucky listener—just in time for summer getaways and poolside flexes.To enter:👉 Follow @popapologists (https://instagram.com/popapologists), @natalie (https://instagram.com/natalie), and @elizabeth.gaucher (https://instagram.com/elizabeth.gaucher) on InstagramBonus chance to win:⭐ Leave a 5 star review for Pop Apologists on Apple Podcasts🎉 GIVEAWAY ALERT: Win Your Dream Summer Bag!Check out our amazing sponsors:BetterHelp: Pop Apologists is sponsored by BetterHelp. We’re all better with help. Visit BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS (http://betterhelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS) to get 10% off your first month.Cozy Earth: To celebrate Moms everywhere, visit CozyEarth.com (http://cozyearth.com/) and use code POP for 40% off your entire order. Because she deserves the best!Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co (http://hero.co/) and use code POP at checkout.Nutrafol: Find out why Nutrafol is the best-selling hair growth supplement brand at Nutrafol.com (http://nutrafol.com/) promo code POP.Quince: Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. Go to http://quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • 272: The Death of John O’Keefe & the Trial of Karen Read Part 2

    272: The Death of John O’Keefe & the Trial of Karen Read Part 2
    Apr 30 2025

    Lauren and Chan dive into everything we know so far from Karen Read’s retrial — prosecution and defense strategy, courtroom drama, and key witness moments. It’s all on the table.


    00:00 – 08:00 Wedding Week Catch-Up

    08:01 – 10:59 Case Background & Legal Overview

    11:00 – 12:59 Media Impact & Public Perception

    13:00 – 15:59 Jury Insights & Legal Strategy

    16:00 – 18:59 Key Players & Investigation Focus

    19:00 – 22:59 Scene Details & Timeline Questions

    23:00 – 24:59 Financial Fallout & Defense Structure

    25:00 – 27:59 New Evidence Introduced

    28:00 – 32:59 Behavior, Phones & Property Changes

    33:00 – 34:59 Search History Controversy

    35:00 – 38:59 Opening Statements & Legal Framing

    39:00 – 41:59 Witness Testimony & Trial Atmosphere

    42:00 – 47:00 Expert Evidence & Courtroom Debates

    47:01 – 48:59 Trial Momentum & What's Ahead

    49:00 – 51:59 Pop Culture Pulse Check (Travis Kelce, Meghan Markle)

    52:00 – 55:00 Podcast Reactions & Commentary


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    58 mins
  • 271: The Death of John O’Keefe & the Trial of Karen Read Part 1

    271: The Death of John O’Keefe & the Trial of Karen Read Part 1
    Apr 30 2025

    In light of Karen Read’s retrial, Lauren and Chandler revisit her first trial from 2024. They walk through the full timeline, key evidence, legal strategies, and the emerging controversies surrounding law enforcement’s role in the investigation.


    00:00 – 03:00 Intro, Format & Re-Release Context

    03:01 – 05:00 Who Were John O’Keefe and Karen Read?

    05:01 – 07:00 The Night in Question

    07:01 – 10:00 Early Morning Discovery & Initial Reactions

    10:01 – 13:00 Phone Records, Taillights & 911 Call

    13:01 – 16:00 Charges, Legal Teams, & Investigation Overview

    16:01 – 20:00 Evidence at the Scene

    20:01 – 24:00 Conflicting Theories & Relationship Dynamics

    24:01 – 28:00 Defense Strategy & Possible Coverup Claims

    28:01 – 33:00 Missing Footage, Evidence Chain & Key Players

    33:01 – 37:00 Surveillance Gaps & Timeline Breakdown

    37:01 – 42:00 Technology Data, Text Patterns & Phones

    42:01 – 47:00 Witness Testimony Challenges & Investigative Concerns

    47:01 – 52:00 Prosecutorial Position & Rebuttals

    52:01 – 57:00 Federal Oversight & External Reports

    57:01 – 01:03:00 Final Review of Conflicting Evidence

    01:03:01 – End What Comes Next & Closing Thoughts

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • 270: Trust Issues, Money Drama, & How to Keep the Spark Alive

    270: Trust Issues, Money Drama, & How to Keep the Spark Alive
    Apr 23 2025
    Marriage is magical… but also occasionally maddening. In this episode, we welcome licensed marriage and family therapist Aly Bullock, to spill her wisdom on making love last long after the honeymoon.💥 [00:02:10] We kick it off with the most-asked question about long-term relationships—and a fresh perspective you probably haven’t heard before.💃 [00:04:50] “Non-toxic drama”? Yes, it’s a thing—and you might just be obsessed with the concept.👀 [00:10:45] How something as simple as eye contact might be the most underrated intimacy move.📱 [00:12:00] The couples app that’s transforming everyday connection—one tiny prompt at a time.🥴 [00:17:15] Is it possible to be happy, healthy, and passionate in the long run? Let’s just say this part might challenge your assumptions.💔 [00:24:15] What to do when you’re years in and still unsure if your partner is “the one.”😬 [00:27:15] The art of addressing a partner’s weight gain—with honesty and compassion.💅 [00:33:00] What to say when your partner’s new look has you questioning everything—including their haircut choices.💵 [00:36:10] Money dynamics in relationships: how to handle shifts in income and power without blowing things up.👶 [00:41:50] Kids change everything—here’s how to stay close when chaos enters the chat.🔐 [00:48:50] Trust issues and betrayal: what healing really looks like, and how to know when it’s time to walk away.👪 [00:55:10] In-law boundaries, decoded. (Yes, you can set them without sparking family feuds.)Find Aly on social media at the handles @pairedapp and @relationshipswithaly where she shares relatable, actionable couples content and check out the show notes for 25% off a year membership to Paired premium to get her expert advice tailored specifically to you and your partner. http://www.paired.com/alypodcastCheck out our amazing sponsors:Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off!Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Prioritize your sleep! Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Sleep Better with Cozy Earth.Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.Quince: Thoughtful. Timeless. Totally her. Shop Mother’s Day at Quince. Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Thrive Market: Ready to make the switch? Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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    1 hr and 4 mins