This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request.

• [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA

• [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc?

• [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy

• [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch

• [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen

• [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera

• [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard

• [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories

• [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next

• [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings

• [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked like

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Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀

⏱️ Chapter Timestamps:

[00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow

[01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal

[13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory

[16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy

[44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone

[45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns

[54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand

[55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse

[01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand

[01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until Friday

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Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age.

⏱️ Timestamps

[00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return

Listener love brings Dad back.

[02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship

Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage.

[04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters

Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success.

[09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names

Courts don’t block odd names.

[10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies

Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers.

[13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice

Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges.

[17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts

Lawyer up for support orders.

[19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work

Both spouses must work; skills matter.

[21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior

Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce.

[23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls

Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict.

[27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips

Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage.

[30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces

More common, but kids suffer.

[33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path

Started law at 30 with three kids.

[38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams

Pursue goals at any age.

[41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups

Fair prenups share future earnings.

[44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days

Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs.

[48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths

All chose bold careers, not law.

[50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers

Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry.

[52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales

Limo attorney; stolen goods chase.

[57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost

Hidden assets don’t pay off.

[59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status

Raised valuing love, not pedigree.

[01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off

Dad’s 25 followers get love.

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