A great mate of the fellas, Matt Underwood, welcomes Mike & Ben along with all of the poddy gear into his home for a yarn while they were on the road recently in the Barossa Valley, South Australia. When it comes to managing mental health, Matt is open to giving anything and everything a crack if it can potentially help. From meditation through to hypnosis he has tried it all and it all came about after a simple sleepless night. Enjoy as Matt walks us through his childhood, right through to today with plenty we can relate to and learn from if we have an open mind.

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