In this second conversation with Terry Ross, you’ll hear even more of his heart—not just his past, but his hurts and hopes. He speaks with honesty about weakness and wounds, his mission endeavors, and his decades in ministry. His story reminds us how God works uniquely in each of our lives. Tracy and Chris invite you to listen closely, learn from Terry’s experiences, and take away truths you can apply to your own journey.

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Tracy and Chris invite you to sit back and hear the remarkable story of Terry Ross. His journey weaves through years of business ventures, risky decisions, music, mission work, ministry, family, and miracles—each with lessons for all of us. Terry was climbing the ladder of business success while his deeper life was falling apart. But then, God intervened. Terry and Tracy share a long history in music, ministry, and friendship. They’ve learned how true, enduring relationships help us navigate life’s highs and lows. As you listen, think about your own journey: How has God met you? How has He directed your steps? And in this season, how might He be working in and through your life?

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In Part 2 of their conversation with Peter Rosenberger, Chris and Tracy continue to be inspired—and believe you will be, too. Peter’s deep love and care for his wife Gracie serve as a powerful reminder of Christ’s love for us all, and of how each of us can grow in caring for those in need.

Peter does whatever he can—whatever she needs—with steady, selfless commitment. The life of a caregiver carries a unique mix of sorrow, strength, humor, and hope. How can we respond when life brings long-term burdens? What does healthy mourning look like when the pain doesn’t go away? How can we faithfully show up for others when the needs keep coming?

Peter’s story teaches us how to love well, endure with grace, and serve like Jesus. Listen, learn, and be encouraged to love like Peter—and even more, like our Savior. We should be elbows deep in the sufferings of this world. That is how we must love.

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Few conversations on Next Step Leadership have been as honest, funny, serious, and inspiring as this week’s episode. Chris and Tracy cherished both of their conversations with Peter Rosenberger—and they believe you will too. Peter has a remarkable ability to be both hilarious and convicting in the same moment. As the longtime caregiver for his wife Gracie—who has endured nearly one hundred surgeries—Peter knows the deep realities of pain, perseverance, and love. He’s also an author, musician, songwriter, and host of the podcast Hope for Caregivers. He understands medical bills, disappointments, and ongoing stress—but he lives to serve those who serve others. His compassion shines through in every word he speaks and writes.

What can we learn from Peter’s decades of walking through suffering with Gracie? How do we care well when everything seems to be going wrong? What wounds in the lives of those we love remain unhealed? In this powerful conversation, Peter reminds us that God continues to teach us—right in the middle of whatever we’re experiencing.

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In the second episode of their conversation with Hal Donaldson, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds believe the message is just what so many in today's world need to hear. Hal knows about wounds and scars. He knows about death and poverty. He knows about health issues and overworking. He knows about busyness as a drug of choice in this modern culture. But Hal also knows God. He knows God's love deeply and he hopes to share that love to needy people. Through his personal life and now through Convoy of Hope, the world is being changed. Hal's personal story influenced his approach to leadership and humanitarian work, motivating him to dive right into the biggest challenges facing global poverty. Convoy addresses hunger not with ideas, but with action. Hear Hal's heart and you'll understand why. Read his book What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World, and his many other books, and let his desire to serve a hurting world become your desire. Reach your community. Be Jesus for those nearby and far away. The world is waiting for Hal, for Convoy of Hope, and for someone like you. Don't leave the needy people alone.

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Hal Donaldson is the president and CEO of Convoy of Hope, a global, faith-based, nonprofit organization that works with communities to address root causes of poverty and hunger. According to Forbes, Convoy of Hope is among the 50 largest charities in the United States. Through its disaster responses and community development programs, Convoy has distributed more than $3 billion worth of food and supplies, helped more than 300 million people, and currently feeds more than 639,000 children every school day. Hal has received numerous public service awards. He has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from San Jose State University and a Bachelor of Arts in biblical studies from Bethany University. Hal and his wife, Doree, have four daughters. Chris has known Hal for many years and is so honored he and Tracy could talk with Hal in Next Step Leadership. Hal is also the author of many books, including his latest, What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World. As you hear Hal's testimony, you will understand better the importance of his book. Through his own wounds, Hal has chosen to realize what really matters and how to bring that truth to people in need all over the world.

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In this second conversation, Pastor Greg Dixon picks up where last week's episode ended. Chris and Tracy want you to hear these types of stories. We might pretend to be strong while deep inside wounds are impacting us. We might present powerful messages and vision and teaching sessions and songs, while our inner worlds carry the pain from past encounters. True leaders seek to be in the job that is best for them and for the people they serve. It should not be about titles. It should not be about the ladder of success. What are you passionate about? What has God placed inside your heart for the work of the kingdom? Promotion in God's kingdom looks so different that how our culture views it. Are you sitting in the chair that is best for you? Are you secure enough in Christ to sit in that chair? Greg also gives practical advice for the life of serving in ministry: Family, friends, time management, preparation, priorities, and boundaries. Look at your life and ministry to see what healthy boundaries you need to set.

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Tracy and Chris invite you to join their time with Pastor Greg Dixon. Like each episode in Next Step Leadership, this week's words are valuable for all who listen. Greg serves as executive pastor at Upward Christian Fellowship in Flat Rock, NC. Years ago, Greg's lead Pastor died unexpectedly. Greg began to serve as lead pastor during a very difficult season of life and ministry. In this conversation, Greg tells his testimony. God worked on Greg through his reluctance and his struggles, but God guided him to Emmanuel University. He talks about his pastor's death and about how the congregation was affected. Greg tried to care for the people while he was also grieving. Greg encourages listeners to know what area is best for them to serve. Moving up to a higher role in leadership isn't always where God leads us. Stepping into a job considered lower in our culture might be the high place God takes us. Is there an area you need to see a counselor? Is hard work taking the place of healing? Listen to his story of grief and growth, change and service, hope and healing.

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