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Navigating The 4 Podcast

Navigating The 4 Podcast

By: Matt Barker
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Join hosts Matt Barker, Jared Gott, Matt Cook, and Nathan Judd each week for "Navigating The 4 Podcast" where they discuss topics and strategies that lead to growth and understanding in the areas of Faith, Communication, Leadership, and Healing.Matt Barker Personal Development Personal Success
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  • Accidental Pharisees Part 2 (Season 2, Episode 8)
    Oct 1 2025

    Sometimes without realizing it, we slip into the very role we criticize—becoming the rule-keepers instead of grace-givers. Join the hosts of Navigating the 4 for Part 2 of Accidental Pharisees, as they take a hard look at how binding our own traditions on others and judging those who do things differently can make us look a lot more like Jesus’ antagonists than His followers. Throughout the episode, we will explore how to recognize these traps, why they’re so tempting, and how to refocus our minds on the heart of the gospel, which involves loving God and His people.

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    33 mins
  • Attachment and our Relationship with God (Season 2, Episode 7)
    Sep 24 2025

    What happens when the way we bond with people spills over into the way we relate to God? In this episode, we unpack three powerful attachment styles—anxious, shutdown, and shame-filled—and how they can quietly shape our prayers, our worship, and our relationship with God. Do we cling too tightly, shut the door to protect ourselves, or shrink back in shame? Throughout the episode, we explore how each attachment style shows up in our faith and how God can lead us from fear and distance into trust and belonging.

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    26 mins
  • The Leadership Draft Part 2: Villains Edition (Season 2, Episode 6)
    Sep 17 2025

    What happens when you put the world’s most infamous villains in charge of a city park project? Join the hosts of Navigating the 4, as they draft the ultimate evil leadership team tasked with pitching a brand-new city park proposal. Who will handle logistics? Who’s in charge of PR? And which villain should never, under any circumstances, be trusted with the playground budget? Tune in for strategy, banter, and plenty of laughs as we discover what happens when leadership skills go to the dark side.

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    22 mins
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