Laura and Virginia take turns crying, comforting each other, and talking about their favorite dead people, and how to get through losing people you love.

This week, we discuss fame, that elusive and desirable mover of men- why you should, or shouldn't, follow your dreams.

References:

Why Some Dreams Should Not Be Pursued: Mark Manson

The Problem with “Follow Your Dreams”Is this self-help classic really that helpful? : Melissa Kirk

US Weekly: Celebs’ Career Backup Plans

People: 15 Celebs Back Up Career If They Were Not Famous

The Chive: Celebs that had some interesting backup careers before fame

6 Reasons Pursuing Your Dreams Is The Only Thing Worth Doing

53 Celebrities You Forgot Were ‘Nepo Babies’ From Famous Families: Kristyn Burtt, Delilah Gray

Listener Lucy sends a question about emotional incest, Laura still sounds mad about something Virginia said forty years ago, and what do Arrested Development and Psycho have in common? Find out now!

References:

How to Recognize and Heal From Emotional Incest: By Crystal Raypole

In this episode, we answer a question from Rebecca, who asks why all of Gen Z is neurodivergent. What do Robert Smith, Robyn Hitchcock, and Gary Numan have in common? And is Virginia causing Autism in men?

Our sole reference:

Is This Autism? A Companion Guide For Diagnosing

DONNA HENDERSON, SARAH WAYLAND, AND JAMELL WHITE

In a very special in-person ep, the girls talk about ego, trauma, Severance, and why it's a good thing that not everything is about you.

Why do we worship the rich? Why doesn't Laura want a billion dollars? And what is a dark triad personality? Find out now!

References:

The 10 Cheapskate Billionaires Who Live Like Paupers

Gus Lubin

Bill Burr Delivers Fiery Rant, Says Billionaires Need to Be 'Put Down Like Rabid Dogs'

Stacey Ritzen

Psychology’s “Dark Triad” and the Billionaire Class

The super-rich aren't the role models we need to advance the common good.

Roy J Eidelson, phd

Materialism, the Dark Triad Traits, and Money Management among Undergraduate Students

Dmitriy S Kornienko , Milena V Baleva, Nadezhda P Yachmeneva

“Christmas Means Giving”

David Sedaris

Brene Brown has brought the word FLOODLIGHTING into the dating lexicon- what does it mean, and why is it bad? On the way, we talk about bad dates, what makes you chug a Chai, What We Do In The Shadows, and what happens when your mother heckles you.

Our listener, Carrie, is struggling with whether to stay in her relationship, and the girls try to give her good advice about narcissists in relationships. Along the way, we make Dr. Ramani an offer, talk about slippery puppies, and play the Dad drinking game some more.