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In this episode, Brian Ondrako breaks down the real reason most people quit too early: the emotional plateau between “starting” and “seeing results.”

We cover Brian’s journey from years of avoiding the first episode to building a 400-episode archive, interviewing legends like Seth Godin and Jason Fried, and teaching founders how to sell with confidence, empathy, and presence.

CONNECT WITH BRIAN🌐 Website: https://brianondrako.com/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianondrako/📰 Newsletter: https://salesskillsforfounders.beehiiv.com/

CONNECT WITH ANDY🌐 Website: https://www.mmgdesign.net/💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindfulmilligan/

TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Intro02:20 — The myth of “starting is hardest”06:40 — Brian’s 3-year delay before episode one12:00 — Comparing yourself to giants online15:31 — Action creates mood20:45 — The evolution of Brian’s hosting style27:10 — Seth Godin on imposter syndrome34:10 — The mindset of asking big guests40:49 — Why founders struggle with sales47:32 — The messy middle of entrepreneurship56:30 — Where to find Brian online

TEAM🎙 Host // Andy Milligan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmgdesign/🎥 Production // MMG Design: https://www.mmgdesign.net/🤝 Powered by // AMA Columbus: https://amacolumbus.org

⚡️High-converting websites swipe file (steal the best designs on the web): ⁠ https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefile

Chris Norton, Founder and Managing Director of Prohibition PR, shares how he went from burnt-out freelance PR consultant working 70-hour weeks to leading a 28-person agency built on focus, crisis comms, and campaigns people actually talk about. He breaks down how to use cultural insight, behavioral science, and a strong “gut check” to choose better clients, protect your energy, and design PR work that drives real behavior — not just headlines.

Listen to this episode to learn how to rethink PR, set better boundaries as a marketer or founder, and build campaigns your audience genuinely wants to share.

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MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ businesses clarify their offer and design a website they are proud to share.

Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founders built their success, and told their stories...by design.

Newsletter: ⁠https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbd⁠

Website: ⁠https://www.mmgdesign.net/

⚡️High-converting websites swipe file (steal the best designs on the web): https://www.mmgdesign.net/visualswipefile

Chris Silvestri breaks down how he blends copywriting, UX, and psychology to help B2B teams communicate clearly and convert more customers. He walks through the research-first process behind his Conversion Alchemy framework and explains why most teams hit a message–market fit problem long before a copy problem. If you want to write clearer, understand user behavior, and build messaging that actually moves people, this episode is loaded.

Listen to this episode to learn how to write better, convert faster, and build a repeatable process for high-performing messaging.

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MMG Design is my web design studio that's helped 80+ businesses clarify their offer and design a website they are proud to share.

Marketing by Design is my podcast where we learn how high-performing marketers and founders built their success, and told their stories...by design.

Newsletter: https://mmgdesign.kit.com/mbdWebsite: https://www.mmgdesign.net/