• Moving Beyond Binaries in Education: Andrea Hiott in Conversation with Tim Logan on Future Learning Design
    Oct 31 2025

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    Moving Beyond Binaries in Education - A Conversation with Tim Logan

    This bonus episode features a conversation with Tim Logan from his podcast The Future Learning Design. In this episode, Tim and Andrea are discussing advancements and challenges in education. They explore themes such as the limitations of traditional education frameworks, the emerging insights from four E cognitive science, and the importance of embodied, relational and ecological approaches to cognition. They also discuss the disorienting yet exciting potential of understanding education as a living, dynamic process. Through it all, the conversation emphasizes the importance of love, attention, and awareness in reshaping educational paradigms. Check out Tim Logan's work with Good Impact Labs and connect with him on LinkedIn.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
    01:49 Starting the Podcast Episode
    02:43 Exploring Cognitive Science
    05:16 The Role of Education
    08:52 Challenges in Education Systems
    13:19 The Future of Learning and Technology
    22:38 Navigating Educational Metrics
    30:54 Exploring the Teacher-Student Dynamic
    32:13 Implicit vs Explicit Learning
    35:33 The Importance of Context in Education
    36:32 The Third Entity in Education
    40:56 Sensing and Cognition
    48:49 The Relational Process of Educating
    53:47 Concluding Thoughts on Education and Love

    Tim Logan is an education leader, connector and facilitator. Tim moves projects from innovative learning design to effectively executing ideas on the ground, swiftly. Bringing his extensive learnings and insights from a global career in youth work, teaching, school leadership and consultancy, Tim has worked with prominent clients around the world to develop new and innovative approaches to learning, well-being and youth engagement. He has most recently worked with International Baccalaureate, Nordic Bildung and Nora Bateson’s team at International Bateson Institute. Tim is also host/producer of the Future Learning Design podcast.

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  • #74 the Dynamics of Holding and Sharing: Authenticity, Maps, Masks & Voicecraft with Tim Adalin
    Oct 23 2025

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    Navigating the Depths of Voice, Authenticity, and Love with Tim Adalin
    In this episode of 'Love and Philosophy,' philosopher host Andrea Hiott engages in a profound conversation with Tim Adalin, founder of the Voicecraft Project in Australia and a philosopher and facilitator of philosophical events. They explore various themes such as the importance of voice, the distinction between holding and sharing space, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in today's complex social landscapes. The discussion also delves into the nuanced dynamics of relationships, the transformative power of silence and presence, and the impact of technology on communication. Through personal anecdotes and philosophical insights, Tim and Andrea highlight the necessity of genuine connection and the cultivation of trust in relational contexts.

    00:00 The Essence of Voice and Presence
    00:58 The Generativity of Relationships
    05:23 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
    06:44 Thought Collectives and Communicative Patterns
    09:29 Voice Craft and Authentic Expression
    10:36 Holding and Sharing Space
    24:42 Navigating Modern Contexts and Leadership
    56:24 The Role of Masks and Maps in Expression
    01:08:16 Introduction to the Magic Flight Light Box
    01:08:36 Openness to Potentiality and Relationship
    01:10:35 Skepticism in Love and Leadership
    01:14:23 Navigating Digital Communication and Integrity
    01:25:49 The Role of Language and Technology
    02:08:26 The Importance of Silence and Presence
    02:20:08 Closing Thoughts and Gratitude
    02:22:05 Final Poem: Of Many Worlds in this World

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  • Hippocampus Love: The Neural Representation Debate & Cognitive Maps with Lynn Nadel (BONUS EPISODE)
    Oct 14 2025

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    Decoding the Brain: Representation and Relational Memory in Cognitive Neuroscience
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    This episode of 'Love and Philosophy Beyond Dichotomy,' hosted by Andrea Hiott, features a deep dive with Lynn Nadel into the complexities of representation in the brain. The discussion explores how thoughts and memories are formed and represented, beginning with a child's understanding and extending to advanced theories in neuroscience. Central themes include population coding, the relational nature of brain functions, and the embodied cognition approach. They also touch on historical perspectives from key figures like Tolman and Eichenbaum, the idea of cognitive maps in the hippocampus, and the role of pre-wiring and experience in shaping brain functions. The episode highlights ongoing debates and innovations in understanding cognitive processes and how the brain models reality.

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    00:00 Introduction to Thought and Representation
    01:48 Exploring the Concept of Representation
    04:07 The Hippocampus and Cognitive Mapping
    08:50 The Mind-Body Problem and Cognitive Neuroscience
    29:30 Topographic Maps and Brain Representation
    32:21 Understanding the Somatic Brain
    32:50 Face Systems and Brain Localization
    33:26 Sensory and Motor Systems
    34:21 Mapping the Brain and Body Connection
    35:01 Historical Insights: Penfield and Milner
    35:50 Topographic Maps and Computational Advantages
    38:11 Hippocampus and Non-Topographical Maps
    39:44 Representation and Meaning in the Brain
    48:20 Associative Learning and Memory
    01:00:31 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions

    Lynn is in Trondheim during this discussion attending the Kavli Prize week. This is the third conversation with Andrea and Lynn.
    Exploring the Cognitive Neuroscience of Representation: Past, Present, and Future
    #representation #lynnnadel #neuroscience #hippocampus #representationdebate

    A Research Discussion with Lynn Nadel, part Three.

    In this (talk three) Andrea & Lynn discuss how we have thoughts and memories and what this means a la representation.
    First talk
    Second talk

    Rep paper from Andrea

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  • #73 Enough of this Harrowing: Life Together on the Möbius Strip with author, educator and activist Parker Palmer
    Oct 3 2025

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    Exploring Life's Paradoxes

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    In this deeply reflective episode of 'Love and Philosophy,' philosopher host Andrea Hiott converses with Parker Palmer, the founder of the Center for Courage and Renewal, about the profound truths of life. They discuss the struggles of depression, the essence of living a life of paradox, and the significance of integrating soul with role. Palmer also shares transformative insights on the nature of love, community, and solitude, and reads a poignant poem that captures the essence of enduring life's hardships. Join us for a heartfelt conversation that explores the complexities and mysteries of human existence.

    00:00 Understanding the Depths of Depression
    02:54 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
    08:48 Parker Palmer's Inspirational Journey
    13:46 The Concept of Paradox in Life
    19:20 The Role of Gratitude and Privilege
    22:51 Exploring the Connection to Nature
    26:52 The Power of Poetry and Paradox
    40:00 Navigating Individuality and Community
    41:52 Exploring Community and Solitude
    43:24 The Wisdom of Paradox
    45:47 The Cure in the Disease
    49:28 A Poetic Reflection on Depression
    55:45 Embracing Humility and Wholeness
    01:08:06 The Role of Love in Healing
    01:17:10 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • #72 Rethinking Cognition: Posthumanism to Planetary Ecology with Professor Katherine Hayles
    Sep 23 2025

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    A poetic conversation at the intersection of literature, science, and technology with Katherine Hayles, a distinguished research professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. Hayles discusses her ideas from her books 'How We Became Posthuman' and 'Bacteria to AI,' focusing on the need to rethink cognition and decouple it from consciousness. She describes the concept of non-conscious cognition and emphasizes the importance of understanding the integrated cognitive framework, which includes biological organisms, synthetic intelligences, and their symbiotic relationships with humans. The discussion extends to planetary ecology, the risks and potentials of advancing AI, and the overarching need for humanity’s care for the planet and each other.

    00:00 What I really meant by posthumanism
    00:27 The Concept of Human Transformation
    00:54 Scientific and Ecological Perspectives
    01:38 The Role of Machines and Symbiosis
    02:31 Understanding Synthetic Intelligence
    02:52 Widening the Circle of Care
    03:40 Introduction to Catherine Hales by philosopher Andrea Hiott
    04:01 Catherine Hales' Academic Background
    04:19 Books by Catherine Hales
    08:30 The Importance of Fiction in Science
    09:55 Consciousness vs. Cognition
    17:42 The Integrated Cognitive Framework
    18:37 Non-Conscious Cognition
    33:01 Meaning Making in Organisms
    35:28 Understanding Different Umwelts
    38:42 Understanding AI's Conceptual Umwelt
    40:13 Embodiment and Ontology in AI
    45:51 Symbiosis: From Biology to AI
    58:08 The Role of Narrative in Science and Literature
    01:10:06 Planetary Cognition and Future Challenges
    01:18:48 The Importance of Accurate Information and Education

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    1 hr and 22 mins
  • #71 Dialectics, Democracy & the Phenomenology of Double Consciousness with Lucius Outlaw Jr.
    Sep 14 2025

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    This episode features esteemed philosopher Lucius Outlaw, professor emeritus of Vanderbilt University. In this thought-provoking conversation, Outlaw shares his remarkable journey from growing up in segregated Mississippi to becoming a respected philosophy professor, closely acquainted with influential figures like Martin Luther King Jr. and Eric Fromm. The discussion weaves through topics like double consciousness, agape love, the philosophy of Hegel, and the transformational power of language. Outlaw also reflects on how shared experiences, dialogue, and love can create a more inclusive, understanding world. Tune in to explore how philosophical insights can shape and nurture community and personal growth.

    00:00 Introduction to Hermeneutic Justice
    01:30 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
    01:39 Lucius Outlaw's Journey
    02:04 Exploring Double Consciousness
    03:43 Phenomenology and Du Bois
    07:49 Challenges in Recording the Episode
    10:38 Lucius Outlaw's Early Life in Mississippi
    36:01 Academic Struggles and Determination
    37:03 Intellectual Growth and Honors Program
    37:16 Gender Dynamics and Respect for Women
    38:24 Choosing Fisk and Academic Rigor
    40:45 Dartmouth Experience and Scholarship Offer
    42:38 Return to Fisk and Black Power Movement
    48:33 Student Government and SNCC Chapter
    52:14 Graduate School and Intellectual Influences
    01:02:01 Hegel, Marcuse, and Dialectical Thinking
    01:07:07 The Crisis of the Negro Intellectual
    01:12:00 Reclaiming Negative Terms: From Black to Queer
    01:14:17 The Struggle of Identity and Language
    01:16:29 Navigating Predominantly White Institutions
    01:19:33 Rehabilitating Whiteness: A Controversial Notion
    01:23:52 The Role of Dialogue in Understanding
    01:25:23 The Legacy of Reverend James Morris Lawson, Jr.
    01:40:50 The Power of Nonviolence and Love
    01:47:30 Final Reflections and Continuing the Legacy

    https://youtube.com/shorts/SioQ7I5N6Sg?si=jJLtNrBEViVu0KlP

    Lucius at Vanderbilt University: https://as.vanderbilt.edu/philosophy/bio/lucius-outlawjr/

    W.E.B. Du Bois

    James Morris Lawson Jr.

    Lucius with Angela Davis: https://swarthmorephoenix.com/2024/12/05/angela-davis-in-conversation-with-lucius-outlaw-a-critical-conversation-on-contemporary-crises/

    Photo from HBCU Radio Preservation Project: watch https://youtu.be/z5ikVSHL3ZM?si=g9QfRlI9wDhsaSLi

    Lucius is the W. Alton Jones Chair, Emeritus Profeessor at Vanderbilt.
    His research Areas are: "racial matters in socio-political life, in the United States in particular, and in legacies and practices of European and Euro-American Philosophy; Social and Political Philosophy; Africana Philosophy (African; African American, for example, Martin Delany, W.E.B. Du Bois, Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington, Ralph Ellison, Toni Morrison, among others); American Philosophy.SpecializationsAfrican, African American, Continental, History of Philosophy, Social and Political"
    Representative Publications
    "On Cornel West on W.E.B. Du Bois" Cornel West: a Critical Reader, George Yancy, ed. (Blackwell 2001)."'Multiculturalism,' Citizenship, E

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  • #70 Fractal Rubik's Cube & the Big Machine with futurist polymath Michael Garfield
    Sep 7 2025

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    Michael Garfield is a futurist polymath who has worked everywhere from the KU Natural History Museum to the Sante Fe Institute to Mozilla to the Long Now. He’s currently with the AI Capabilities and Alignment Consensus Project. Oh, and he also has twenty years experience as an artist and musician. This conversation is a bit of a song exploder, looking into one of Michael’s songs (the Big Machine) through the kaleidoscope of his other more academic interests.

    Summary: A deep, multifaceted conversation with Michael Garfield, known for his contributions to the Complexity podcast at the Santa Fe Institute, Future Fossils, and Humans on the Loop. This discussion with Andrea & Michael traverses various terrains including Michael’s journey from paleontology to music, his insights on complexity science, and the intriguing idea of the 'Fractal Rubik's Cube.' The entire conversation song explodes the themes behind Michael's song 'Big Machine,' tackling how love, mysticism, and science intersect in our complex world. Throughout, Michael shares his nuanced understanding of information, attention, and what it means to explore beyond traditional academic and scientific boundaries.

    Check out Michael's latest essay for Aeon

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    00:00 Introduction to Michael Garfield
    01:37 Exploring Michael's Multifaceted Talents
    02:48 Unpacking the Song 'Big Machine'
    05:19 Michael's Journey and Inspirations
    06:06 The Evolution of Michael's Musical Path
    10:46 Complexity Science and Personal Growth
    23:24 Challenges in Academia and Complexity
    54:34 The Role of Psychedelics and Language
    58:14 The Importance of Communication and Curation
    01:00:18 The Evolution of Social Media and Podcasts
    01:02:08 The Importance of Internal Culture in Organizations
    01:05:59 Navigating Modern Uncertainty and Strategic Thinking
    01:07:21 The Role of Games in Understanding Complexity
    01:09:33 The Intersection of AI, Podcasting, and Education
    01:10:24 The Concept of Future Fossils and Precognition
    01:13:06 The Philosophy of Finite and Infinite Games
    01:17:17 The Age of Entanglement and Emergent Engineering
    01:24:55 The Practice of Noticing and Consciousness
    01:41:39 Love, Synchronicity, and the Future of Work

    And here is a short talk Michael gave at DISI last month:

    https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/foraging

    https://substack.com/home/post/p-159486923

    https://youtu.be/PFT2p6l9dW8?si=U1godoyWVDfIRIJx

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    1 hr and 50 mins
  • #69 The philosophy of Bioregionalism with Félix de Rosen
    Aug 25 2025

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    A first person exploration of the philosophy of bioregionalism, inspired by the complexity science of Donnella Meadow, with Felix de Rosen, a landscape architect and gardener.

    Felix shares his fascinating journey from studying political science at Harvard to his passion for the natural world and Bioregionalism. Andrea and Felix explore the philosophy of organizing human societies around naturally defined areas, discussing complex systems and the importance of finding community. This conversation is an exploration of the intersections of ecology, culture, and personal growth through Felix's experiences and insights on creating sustainable and meaningful connections with the land and each other.

    00:00 Introduction to Bioregionalism

    00:43 Félix de Rosen's Background and Journey

    01:30 Complex Systems and Community

    02:53 Felix's Personal Reflections

    05:21 The Importance of Place and People

    21:34 Discovering Landscape Architecture

    26:37 Understanding Bio Regionalism

    30:11 Exploring Systems Thinking and Worldview

    31:38 The Intersection of Gardens and Worldviews

    36:06 Frustrations and Realizations in Landscape Architecture

    39:45 The Importance of Systems Thinking

    42:54 Bio Regionalism and Community Building

    48:01 Bridging Political Divides through Bio Regionalism

    52:25 International Bio Regional Projects

    54:37 The Role of Love and Connection to Earth

    01:00:30 Agency Deficit Disorder and Hope for the Future

    01:01:28 Conclusion and Ways to Connect

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    A Garden’s Purpose

    The BioFi Project

    Polycultura: Planetary Design and Communication

    A talk from Felix at the Harvard commencement

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    1 hr and 3 mins